Know you guinea pig, know your poo

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moonfall

Post   » Thu Jul 11, 2013 1:59 am


I was giving more pellets when I ran out of hay and was worried about the softer poop a few days ago. They are back on more hay/less pellets, and everything looks fine.

Do you have pictures of the "special poops?" I'm not sure I've ever seen green guinea pig poop.

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Ibepatience
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Post   » Thu Jul 11, 2013 9:13 am


Do you think it's possible that being nervous could cause diarrhea? I asked the vet and she said no but sometimes vets are more "textbook" than actual experience.

bpatters
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Post   » Thu Jul 11, 2013 10:53 am


I doubt that nervousness causes diarrhea.

Bookfan
For the Love of Pigs

Post   » Thu Jul 11, 2013 1:11 pm


My vet said stress would not cause soft poo in piggies & I think that would be similar.

wenton5

Post   » Thu Jul 11, 2013 2:34 pm


I think stress or nervousness could cause a fluxuation in stool, or a fluxuation in eating habits which obviously contribute to stool consistency. I don't think stress would cause diarrhea or really soft stool, softer stool, my guess is yes, but not a huge change unless you have seen an eating change along with the stress.
Thanks everyone for the pellet info. that was something I have never considered as I give my pigs a strict amount every morning and have never waivered. I may try cutting down to see what happens. I have one pig with on and off soft stool and my piggy that died of cancer (we tried everything) had huge issues with stool consistency. Thanks, L

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jacqueline

Post   » Sun Jul 14, 2013 7:09 am


Lynx - may I suggest that this be somehow condensed and turned into a sticky? I had to do a search to find this thread and it took me a while to remember the key words.

Also, it seems most of the posts are about soft poos. Not a problem, but Olive seems to be having small poos lately and I'm wondering what that's about? She's on motility drugs right now - she has this odd shaped belly. It makes her head look kind of funny being on a body with a tummy like hers. (yes, she was seen by the vet. It's not bloat, but he did put her on motility meds)

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Lynx
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Post   » Sun Jul 14, 2013 9:21 am


Small poops typically mean a guinea pig is not eating enough. An odd shaped belly, if it is distended, could indicate distended intestines but I think then you'd see clumpy poops.

I can make this a temporary sticky. The idea is actually to get all the info we can and add it to the guide in some way with a link back to this thread.

wenton5

Post   » Sun Jul 14, 2013 11:31 am


Jacqueline, I would love pics of any type of abnormal poo. Do you have pics of Olive's small poo?

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jacqueline

Post   » Sun Jul 14, 2013 12:08 pm


I'll work on that today. Thanks

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jacqueline

Post   » Sun Jul 14, 2013 3:48 pm


Okay - here's a shot of Olive's poo. I'm not sure how "abnormally"small they are. She's my pig with an odd shape (small head, big body) and is on cisipro right now.:

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wenton5

Post   » Mon Jul 15, 2013 10:28 am


Jacqueline, how old is Olive? Any history of illness? How long have her poos been different? Thanks, L

emilyam19

Post   » Mon Jul 15, 2013 12:45 pm


Every once in a while I'll see slightly smaller poops (~75% the size of normal ones) in the cage. They aren't oddly shaped just a tiny bit smaller. I'm not sure of the cause but I know they have to be coming from one of the girls. They never appear to have any health issues that I can tell and at a minimum have access to hay and fresh water at all times. I'll see if I can get a comparison shot.

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jacqueline

Post   » Mon Jul 15, 2013 2:55 pm


Wenton - I adopted Olive from a rescue in Maryland. They thought she had permanently scarred lungs, and were giving her nebulizer treatments (which they told me would be for the rest of her life). They thought she was about 1 1/2 to 2 years old. Intact female. I just copied this post (since I wrote it) from Olive's medical thread here:

"We just returned from Olive's vet appointment and I am very glad we did!

Xrays were taken. Olive's lungs are very clear - not a shadow anywhere. Her heart is ever so slightly enlarged. Dr. D. believes the noise is coming from her throat area. She sounds like she has a bunch of phlegm in her throat that she can't clear. He believes the nebulizer treatments will just make this worse, since she already has excess moisture in her mouth that she can't handle.

He called it "pharyngeal dysfunction". On the xray there was also something unusually shaped right at the place where her spine meets her skull. The shape of it was a bit off. It would be straight behind her throat.

He thinks she probably has some sort of neurological issues that make it difficult for her to use her pharynx properly, hence the extra moisture. There was some evidence of drool in the corners of her lips. Teeth check out okay.

She should be fine for quite some time, though at some point the dysfunction could progress, leaving it more and more difficult for her to swallow, risking aspiration, etc.

For now he gave he cicipro and believes that will help significantly. And NO MORE Nebulizer!!"

Here she is:

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Lynx
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Post   » Mon Jul 15, 2013 9:13 pm


She's a cutie!

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Regiane
Cavy Slave Since '08

Post   » Mon Jul 15, 2013 10:59 pm


Here's my contribution.

Normal and beautiful poop from my young healthy pig Faísca versus strange poops from my 4 years old heart pig Pantufinha.

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The first strange poop have some dried mucus on it. I'd love to hear more about it, especially about malabsorption and so. She's dealing with strange teeth issues right now and I don't know what to think.

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tashab

Post   » Tue Jul 16, 2013 9:24 pm


Princess occasionally gets poops like that - usually for a few days, and then it seems to resolve itself.
I suspect that on those days she has a little bit of gas, but I don't know for sure (she is, of course, over it by the time we get her to a vet).

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jacqueline

Post   » Wed Jul 17, 2013 3:39 am


Do Olive's poos look small to you?

emilyam19

Post   » Thu Jul 18, 2013 12:16 pm


Here is a shot of Charlie’s current poops. They found an overgrowth of two bacteria: klebsiella and enterobacter (both normally found in the gut of mammals).

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Jacqueline, I’m not sure if I’d consider those small (at least compared to my pigs). It looks like the droppings are about the size of GW’s face (on the quarter). Here’s a comparison shot with one of mine:
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wenton5

Post   » Fri Jul 19, 2013 1:44 pm


Did that bacteria growth show up on the fecal smear? Is he taking anything? L

emilyam19

Post   » Fri Jul 19, 2013 1:52 pm


Here are all the test results.

Wet mount; Result: tritrichomonas
Gram stain; Result: some yeast but no overgrowth; normal
Culture (aerobic C&S); Result: overgrowth of klebsiella and enterobacter; no fungus

He's currently on Metronidazole for two weeks. If he isn't where we want him to be on the 24, or he back slides after taking him off the metronidazole, we will put him on some baytril.

He's been nibbling some poop from the other pigs. The vet mentioned it could be the meds are making his taste a little off and he's just not used to that. I might've even lightly nudged Sonia over when she was reaching for one of hers to see if Charlie would take it (she quickly replaced it with another one).

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