Older sow losing weight

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Post   » Fri Jun 02, 2006 7:32 pm


I hope Pinta has a chance to see this thread. She may be familiar with implants that her veterinary dentist has done (I'm pretty sure they've been done on other species).

What I remember is the top tooth can keep the bottom ones in check. I hope the tooth is strong enough to do so.

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Post   » Fri Jun 02, 2006 9:08 pm


Yes, I'd like some input from Pinta on this too.

I suppose we may be up for having her lower teeth clipped every month to keep them in check. At the moment the remaining top tooth is thin and sticking out, so I don't see that it's going to do anything to wear those lower incisors down. The vet hopes that the other incisor will straighten up and strengthen.

Even with her lower teeth clipped so that they didn't hit the roof of her mouth, her appetite came back and she was able to maintain her weight (not gained, as yet, but maintained).

Dr. R. said the orange tooth was rotten and practically came out on it's own - it must have caused her a great deal of pain I think previously.

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Post   » Sat Jun 03, 2006 3:23 am


Arthur had his top incisor extracted and the remaining one angled to compensate. The lower incisors don't need filing unless the top incisor breaks off. It has broken off amd I used a glass nail file to file the lower incisors until the upper one grew back.

How long are you going to be in Vancouver?

I did ask Dr Legendre about a tooth implant and he said it wasn't possible because the material used would have to be soft enough not to damage the opposing teeth which would still be growing and grinding against it. If the material was soft enough, it would be ground down and the implant would have to be frequently replaced.

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Post   » Sat Jun 03, 2006 10:05 am


Thanks Pinta.

I'll be in Victoria for a week, probably starting around August 1.

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Post   » Tue Jun 06, 2006 6:31 pm


How's your girl? Is her appetite any better?

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Post   » Tue Jun 06, 2006 7:22 pm


She seems to be eating ok, and she and Spot absolutely love the bowl of Critter Be Better they get each day (well, what Snuggles doesn't eat first)!

She's not yet regaining her weight, but I hope she does soon.

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Post   » Tue Jun 06, 2006 8:26 pm


Well as long as she is eating. Are they glad to have you back? :)

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Post   » Fri Jul 14, 2006 11:44 am


Goldie is still losing weight, so yesterday I took her to see Dr. Lyon, the dental specialist.

The top incisor which was removed is starting to grow back. He took a dental xray and could see that half of the tooth is still there, although only a small nub shows. The lower half of the part in the jaw is damaged and may or may not be viable as it grows.

He discussed gluing a small false tooth to the upper incisor when it grows long enough to do this. This would only be temporary and would be to help push the other incisor into a straighter alignment. It would eventually be ground down as the tooth grows.

He said that he and Dr. Legendre (?) have only done this 2 or 3 times previously, and that it would be pretty experimental.

Currently, her incisors are out of alignment and she is unable to grab food properly. Her molar are not affected.

He would like to see her gain a little weight and build up strength before considering putting her under anesthesia for surgery. He was able to get an xray of her top incisors without anesthesia, luckily.

Goldie and Spot share a cage with Snuggles - our healthy, bouncy 1-year old sow. I'm thinking that I need to remove Snuggles from the cage and just keep the seniors with their weight issues alone together. However, at this point I have no idea who to pair Snuggles with!

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Post   » Fri Jul 14, 2006 2:48 pm


If you choose to do so and care to, we'd be happy to get xrays and pics of it.

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Post   » Mon Jan 29, 2007 1:20 pm


Goldie has done very well without her front incisor. For a while there was nothing there and the remaining incisor just grew at an angle to compensate. After a couple of trimmings of the lower incisors she was eventually able to keep them ground down herself.

However, yesterday I saw something else:

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This is the tooth that was removed. Xrays showed that the tooth would likely continue to come in and break off.

I'm off in search of a glass nailfile now, so that I can try to file down the sharp bottom piece of the regrown tooth (you can't see the point in the picture).

Her weight is back up to what it was before all of this came about, and she eats well and seems extremely healthy. No doubt this tooth will eventually break off again.

(Not a great picture, but I was trying to take it singlehandedly while she was upside down in my lap!).

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Post   » Mon Jan 29, 2007 1:26 pm


Not a bad pic though. If you can get someone to help you and you get a clearer one, do post it. It would be cool to add it to the teeth page so people know multiple teeth can grow in (quite unusual).

One tip I use for my cameral is to half press the button so it focuses and then fully press it after I recenter it in another area. This way I can choose the best distance (for you it is the tooth, of course) and then swing it down a bit to still include the whole mouth but keep the focal distance.

Then again you c ould probably just center the tooth in the pic and crop a pic.

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Post   » Mon Jan 29, 2007 1:31 pm


I'll see if Emma can hold her for me when she gets home from school today.

At the same time I need to get a photo of Frosting's peg tooth, but that definitely needs a person to hold (or photograph), because her mouth is so small!

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Post   » Mon Jan 29, 2007 2:45 pm


If it can wait, I can come over Wed after work and help you!

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Post   » Mon Jan 29, 2007 2:50 pm


Thanks S&D, but Wednesday is our UCLA day and we get back late.

I'll figure it out!

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Post   » Mon Jan 29, 2007 6:24 pm


The photographer is home from school:

This is Goldie's tooth, which was previously removed:

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And this is Frosting's peg tooth:

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Post   » Mon Jan 29, 2007 9:25 pm


Cool pics. I'm going to throw all these pics on the site, if that's okay with you.

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Post   » Mon Jan 29, 2007 9:28 pm


No problem.

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Post   » Tue Jan 30, 2007 3:14 am


Dr. Legendre says if some cellular matter is left when a tooth is extracted there is a good chance it will regrow. If all the cellul;ar matter is removed, it won't regrow.

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Post   » Tue Jan 30, 2007 9:18 am


Dr. Lyons saw Goldie and did the last xray. He could see that the tooth would keep regrowing but break off.

So far this weird tooth doesn't seem to bother her - I hope it stays that way.

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Post   » Tue Jan 30, 2007 9:32 am


Pics updated. Thanks!

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