Please Help! my 5 day old orphaned guinea pig refuses to eat

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ellissian

Post   » Mon Feb 05, 2007 3:03 pm


She is getting good nutrition now. I know she wasnt in the first two weeks of her life, but now she is spoilt rotten. We call her princess Popcorn cause she gets waited it on all the time. It makes her more precious as she is the only baby to survive her litter.

She has never had any truely bald patches, this downy fur has always been there.

The new fur that has grew through is glossy and smooth, even though it is short. And its growing though a lighter shade, the fur she was born with is quite scruffy looking.

purrie

Post   » Mon Feb 05, 2007 3:41 pm


daftscotslass, I have frozen the Critical Care powder and used it beyond its date.

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ellissian

Post   » Mon Feb 05, 2007 4:12 pm


Sorry Purrie I forgot to reply to your earlier offer of the critical care food. Sorry!!!

So is the critical care out of date?

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ellissian

Post   » Tue Feb 06, 2007 7:40 am


Sorry again I meant Daftscotchlass, about the critical care food, duh!!

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ellissian

Post   » Tue Feb 06, 2007 8:15 am


Ive just bought some Bob Martins My little Friend Spot On. Which is supposed to be suitable for rabbits, guinea pigs, hamsters and mice. There is no ingrediants on it and Ive done a web search and cant find any info on it.

Does anyone know if its safe to use?

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-JC-
I gave AGAIN, dammit!

Post   » Tue Feb 06, 2007 8:38 am


It isn't. It contains pyrethrins, which although are 'natural' in that they're plant-based, are proved to be harmful to small animals - easily ingested and inhaled, can kill, my vet REFUSES to use pyrethrin products even though they're legally sold in Britain, typing fast so you see this, please don't use it!!!

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ellissian

Post   » Tue Feb 06, 2007 8:46 am


Dont worry JC I havent used it!!!

I thought it would be best to ask first before I did.

They shouldnt be allowed to sell it should they? Especially since you can even use it on something as small as a mouse!!!

Thats disgraceful.

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Bethie
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Post   » Tue Feb 06, 2007 8:47 am


Thanks for that, JC. I was wondering about the Bob Martin stuff. I refused to buy it 'cause it didn't say what it was and even online, they don't list the ingredients. That makes me think they have something to hide.

Best to get a treatment from your vet; and not ivermectin injections. Is it Revolution you need for a baby? There's a thread here somewhere that says where you can get ivermectin in the UK. My Animal Supply store won't sell it to me because it's made for sheep and I don't have sheep.

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ellissian

Post   » Tue Feb 06, 2007 8:50 am


I dont think she does have mites to be honest with you, not that I am a vet or an expert.

Her fur is growing back really fast, maybe it was stress related after all.

Thats why I asked first before I used it Bethie as they didnt list the ingrediants, which I found strange.

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-JC-
I gave AGAIN, dammit!

Post   » Tue Feb 06, 2007 8:52 am


Most vets sell Revolution (but not sure if it has the same brand name here). The active ingredient is selamectin, so that's what you need to ascertain. I've just trawled through old posts and seen that people like Texasrustlers have used Revolution safely very many time, including on babies. But that's about all I can tell - no-one seems to come out and say 'it is safe for babies' and I guess that's because we don't have the tests/data to know. Even ivermectin isn't 'officially' approved for use on cavies, but my vet and others prescribe it routinely, and member of GL have iused it thousands of times over safely.

Hope that helps. You can always browse through search results from the forum - try putting in: Revolution AND babies, and check the button for 'view as posts' not threads, and see what that brings up.

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ellissian

Post   » Tue Feb 06, 2007 8:57 am


Ive just found an old post that says to use advantage on weaned pups.

Can I only get that from the vets or elsewhere?

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Mum
I GAVE, dammit!

Post   » Tue Feb 06, 2007 9:13 am


Advantage only kills lice, not mites.

Revolution is called Stronghold in the UK - but I've never used it on small babies, and I'm not sure I'd be comfortable doing so. It's prescription only I believe.

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ellissian

Post   » Tue Feb 06, 2007 9:15 am


Mum do you think it sounds like she has mites or could her fur loss be stress related.

Its really growing back fast.

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Mum
I GAVE, dammit!

Post   » Tue Feb 06, 2007 9:26 am


If her hair is growing back and there's no more hairloss then it may not be mites.

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ellissian

Post   » Tue Feb 06, 2007 9:31 am


See she never had no completely bald patches, there has always been new hair growing underneath.

The fur on her tummy was really thin yesterday but today it is really thick again.

Its a mystery to me why it happened in the first place.

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-JC-
I gave AGAIN, dammit!

Post   » Tue Feb 06, 2007 9:38 am


If her hair is growing back - and mainly because she's so little still - I would hold off. Keep an eye on her for more hairloss or scratching.

It wouldn't hurt to then dose all your pigs with ivermectin when they're all big enough - lots of people dose just to be sure. And I know some people think mites cannot survive off the pig, but I have held up bags of hay and bedding in Pets at Home and *seen* tiny white spots crawling around on the inside of the cellophane. Try it some time (okay, they'll think your crazy, but who cares?!) I won't buy from pet shops any more. Not only do they almost all sell small animals, so I'd be promoting breeding, but they generally smell, the animals are sickly and mite-infested, and there are various bugs aplenty in all those dried food bags, hay and bedding. I don't want to take that home with me.

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ellissian

Post   » Tue Feb 06, 2007 9:50 am


I was thinking of hold off for a while just to see how she goes, as long as that is safe for me to do.

She is 3 weeks old tomorrow and weighs 177g, not bad for a little girl who only weighed 69g ten days ago. Its just the fur situation.

Oh and mum the apology was mainly aimed at you (along with others) but mainly you as you were the one helping me the most and who I was most off hand with.

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Webs
Cavies 'n Cobwebs

Post   » Tue Feb 06, 2007 10:59 am


NO to Bob Martin Spot-On. If you must get a Spot-On treatment, this is an ivermectin only one made by Beaphar which is now available here in the UK.

This one is available online and in Pets at Home.

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-JC-
I gave AGAIN, dammit!

Post   » Tue Feb 06, 2007 12:03 pm


WOW, Webs, I didn't know that existed. That is great news! Thank you! That's so much easier than buying the horse paste.

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Webs
Cavies 'n Cobwebs

Post   » Tue Feb 06, 2007 12:43 pm


I've tried it and the only thing I have against it is for a fully grown pig you need to use the 2 tubes as suggested. It's quite a lot in comparison to the amount the vet uses for topical so the hair can get a bit damp so it feels a little greasy for a week or 2. I wouldn't advise children handling the pigs after treatment and to wash your hands after you handle them yourself!

But yes, definitely easier on me and the pigs than the horse paste!

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