Elsie's ugly teeth

Talishan
You can quote me

Post   » Sat Aug 18, 2007 8:07 pm


Poor Elsie. Wishing her (and you) the best.

GP Lover
My home, ruled by pigs!

Post   » Sat Aug 18, 2007 9:28 pm


Thanks Talishan and Mum, yeah, chiggers are gone now. O:)

How long do I soak her foot and how often per day?

GP Lover
My home, ruled by pigs!

Post   » Sat Aug 18, 2007 9:40 pm


The patient herself...first foot soak.

Image

User avatar
Mum
I GAVE, dammit!

Post   » Sat Aug 18, 2007 10:11 pm


I've never dealt with bumblefoot - just with scabby feet from poor pigs being housed on wire.

In that instance, I soaked them as often as possible - 3 times a day at least or so.

Bumblefoot in heart issues is usually caused by poor circulation. I wonder if her enalapril needs upping?

GP Lover
My home, ruled by pigs!

Post   » Sat Aug 18, 2007 10:20 pm


She has very dry, cracked skin on both front paws. I put some aspen bedding down in the cage because I thought it would be easier for her to walk on then Carefresh. I think this may have contributed to the problem she is having. The vet said she is more susceptible due to her age and especially if the skin is cracked.

User avatar
mab0615

Post   » Sat Aug 18, 2007 10:32 pm


Wishing Elsie a quick recovery with her foot injury.

She appears to be a very good patient.

User avatar
rshevin

Post   » Sat Aug 18, 2007 11:02 pm


What about massaging some coconut oil on her un-injured feet to help moisturize and prevent further damage?

User avatar
Lynx
RESIST

Post   » Sat Aug 18, 2007 11:58 pm


The chlorhexidine is quite drying. Consider dilute betadine instead. You can use preparation H on the foot to moisturize (it will also relieve a bit of the pain).

I think you'll find more on this page:

www.guinealynx.info/antiseptic_solutions.html

User avatar
rshevin

Post   » Sun Aug 19, 2007 12:22 am


She's using betadine already.

GP Lover
My home, ruled by pigs!

Post   » Sun Aug 19, 2007 9:40 am


I have pure vitamin E cream too. She will get that too!

GP Lover
My home, ruled by pigs!

Post   » Mon Aug 20, 2007 9:08 am


Ugh...her foot is not as swollen asd it was except one toe is very very swollen. Will it eventually open up so I can drain the pus out?

My poor baby. She makes it this far (7 yrs and 5mths) but has all these health issues to deal with. Somehow it seems to be harder on me then her.

User avatar
Topaz

Post   » Mon Aug 20, 2007 9:27 am


Aw, poor Elsie. And you. I'm sending good thoughts her way.

User avatar
Lynx
RESIST

Post   » Mon Aug 20, 2007 4:20 pm


I don't know what it is. Sounds like it could be an infection if it is primarily a toe. Vet? Antibiotics? Opening it up?

Talishan
You can quote me

Post   » Mon Aug 20, 2007 7:36 pm


I'd try to open it.

No, actually, I'm too cowardly. I'd make a vet appointment to get it opened up. Then, unfortunately, you know the drill -- flush, AB's, etc.

KY jelly works very well also as a moisturizer. It really helped one of our seniors' feet and abdominal area. Just make sure to get plain original 'flavor'. There are several newer ones available that have other ingredients added you wouldn't want for a small animal.

GP Lover
My home, ruled by pigs!

Post   » Mon Aug 20, 2007 8:04 pm


How would you try to open it if you could? I keep soaking and then applying antibiotic cream to it. If there's no improvement at the end of the week (7 days on Bactrim) then I'll bring her in. She is just so thin and fragile. I can't stand the thought of her having to go through any invasive medical procedure.

User avatar
Lynx
RESIST

Post   » Mon Aug 20, 2007 8:34 pm


Is it tender? Hot to the touch?

User avatar
rshevin

Post   » Mon Aug 20, 2007 8:49 pm


Most likely it'd be opened with a tiny sterile puncture/incision but I'd be afraid to do it too.

GP Lover
My home, ruled by pigs!

Post   » Mon Aug 20, 2007 10:09 pm


It's not hot but it is tender. I just pulled a scab off and was able to get more puss and blood out. Now it looks like a big gash in the bottom of her paw. I made her soak it in the Betadine and I put antibiotic cream on it.

Talishan
You can quote me

Post   » Mon Aug 20, 2007 10:14 pm


Is it her toe itself that is swollen? Or is it between the toes? Maybe most importantly, is there still a scab, hole, or healing area where you were able to remove the major amount of pus the first time?

We have a couple of seniors that do not, repeat do not, handle trips to the vet well. One gets something analogous to a human panic attack. The vet has told us not to bring her in if we can help it (and the vet will help me over the phone, over email etc. if possible).

If Elsie's like that ... and at 7 years 5 months I wouldn't blame her ... I'd try to avoid the trip, but not, of course, at the risk of endangering her health.

If you have more guts than me:

Try making a warm (as warm as she'll tolerate it, but of course don't burn her) solution of water and Epsom salt. Sterilize a small needle. Put her foot in the warm water and Epsom solution. You want two things to happen: one, for as much of the infection and pus to draw up and out as possible, and two, for the warmth to encourage her circulation and thus fluids moving up and out (like Mum's vet does to obtain blood through a toenail overclip; you warm the foot first).

If you can find a clear, clean place to place the needle ... that is, an obvious, hopefully straightforward point of entry ... then draw her foot out of the solution, dry it, and try to lance it. I personally wouldn't try this if there was any question as to where to stick; that is, a generalized swollen, infected toe with no clear good place to lance.

If you can find a place, and lance it, and drain it, then thoroughly cleanse with your Betadine solution. (I think chlorhex would be better, but it is extremely drying.) If all this works, then treat it like an abscess ... keep it open, soaked, and flushed until it heals up from the inside.

Caveat: I'm suggesting you do something I very seriously doubt I could do myself. If you have a good relationship with your vet and he is understanding of Elsie's age and emotions, talk this through with him or her and see what s/he thinks.

In any event I'd keep her on the Bactrim for 14 days minimum unless she's having a problem with it.

Edit: well, all that is moot, but I think it's a good thing you were able to locate a scab, pull it, and clean the infection out.

GP Lover
My home, ruled by pigs!

Post   » Mon Aug 20, 2007 10:25 pm


Thanks Talishan. You are very kind to walk with me through all this. Emotionally I am spent. I come home from work each day and nurse her all night long...between meds and handfeeding and cleaning the cage I am worn out. She amazes me though how she continues to survive. On one hand I am so grateful she has lived so long but there seems to be one problem after another. She is handling it well though...better than me!

Post Reply
304 posts