If you have a definite diagnosis of Bordetella, ask if they know what ABs would work best for that strain and if they don't know, I would suggest putting the other pigs on a preventative course of trimethoprim/sulfa(30-50mg/kg q12h) or baytril(5-10mg/kg q12h) - Hillyer and Quesenberry. H&Q didn't mention how long a course. Doxy might also work but it isn't mentioned in Hillyer and Quesenberry probably because at the time of print of my book, it wasn't commonly used with pigs. A drug sensitivity culture would remove the guesswork.
Up their vitamin C as though they were ill (50-100mg/kg)and make sure they stay hydrated. Handfeed at the first sign of weight loss.
Since Bordetella is so serious it makes sense to treat known exposed pigs as though they have it if the ABs can be well tolerated.
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As far as vaccinations, my general vet, who knows a little about exotics, but is not up on everything, didn't know much about the bordetella vaccine for cavies. He said KSU (Kansas State University Teaching Hospital) might know, but didn't know if it would be worth the risk, now that they have both been exposed.
I guess I just have to take it one step at a time. Does me no good to panic. I need to stay well in case I have to care for them.
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It's still a mystery where your possible bordetella could have come from. You haven't gotten culture results back yet, have you?
It isn't common with pigs but it does happen and when it does it's deadly. I know of 2 outbreaks, that killed the majority of the pigs. After symptoms of Bordetella show, it progresses incredibly rapidly. Watering eyes, puffed fur sitting with faces in the cornerof the cage are just some of the symptoms I remember being related. Some of pigs died within hours of showing illness.
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I wasn't familiar with this, either.
BUT. In dogs who are assumed to be exposed, one of the first things you do is a bordetella vaccine. It is supposed to lessen the effects of the actual illness, even if it does develop.
Since you have access to university quality info and treatment--I'd check into it.
I agree with the upped C and the ab's, sounds like a good plan.
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I have just gotten back from the University, and actually spoken to the Dr. who did the necropsy. I don't have the official report, but I can paraphrase what I was told.
The lungs were not full of fluid, but did have a mild case of inflammation which they are calling pneumonia. They also saw bacteria in the tissue of the lungs which they assumed to be Bordetella so they sent it off for culture. It did not grow, and remains unidentified. He said Bordetella would have grown quickly, so he is not sure what it was, but does not believe it to be Bordetella any longer.
None of the other major organs were remarkable (heart, kidneys, liver, reproductive, etc.) She appeared to be an overall healthy guinea pig for her age.
The finding of significance was bloat. He said she was pretty bloated when they opened her up. When ask if they found any parasite in the stomach/intestines he said it's hard to tell unless you know what you're looking for. He said some exist naturally, and some do not, and he gave me the run around on that. He said there may be something in his report that he can't remember.
His assumption is that she became so bloated that the air pushed on the lungs causing her to have difficulty breathing, and expire.
The report should be finished by next week, but I have her body back and it sounds like all the testing is complete.
So after all that, I have no real answer. I did not notice her being bloated. I examined her body after death. How could I have missed it if it was severe enough to kill her?
What am I missing here?
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I am glad its not bordetella. Something in the way you phrased your first post made me think it wasn't really it, but I wrote it off to wishful thinking (for the health of the rest of your herd).
How frustrating. I'm sorry you're not getting clear answers.