Henry - crusty eyes, lethargic

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Smoskaly
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Post   » Thu Oct 04, 2007 2:09 pm


Regarding cranberry, I forgot to add that an ingredient in cranberries (mannose, or something like that) makes the bladder wall slippery, so bacteria can't adhere to the bladder wall. At least, that's what I've read.

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somechick

Post   » Thu Oct 04, 2007 2:09 pm


Would critterberries not be enough? Because I give one of those daily. Is there a benefit of the juice over the treats? People have mentioned the cranberry juice before, but maybe I assumed (or it has been said, I can't remember at this point) that the critterberries are good too.

About your sticking to the wall comment -- is that what that link I referred to is talking about too? The "inhibits adherence" thing?

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Smoskaly
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Post   » Thu Oct 04, 2007 2:12 pm


Sorry, not familiar with critterberries. Maybe someone else can comment. What are critterberries made of?

Yes, it sounds like the link you referred to was also talking about the bacteria not being able to adhere to the bladder wall.

ellenvega
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Post   » Thu Oct 04, 2007 2:47 pm


What critterberries consist of

I'm not sure there's a whole lot of cranberry in them.

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somechick

Post   » Thu Oct 04, 2007 3:03 pm


Oh. Cranberry Extract powder seems to be the only mention of cranberry. Hmph. Well, maybe I'll grab some juice tonight. I guess I would get this kind of stuff at a health / natural food store?

Talishan
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Post   » Thu Oct 04, 2007 3:07 pm


It'll be a lot easier to find unsweetened at a health or natural food store. Most regular stores carry only sweetened.

Best wishes to Henry and to you. I wish I had something more useful than that to add.

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Amy0204
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Post   » Thu Oct 04, 2007 3:19 pm


Trader Joe's has a lot of unsweetened juices. I just bought blueberry-pomegranite (for myself).

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somechick

Post   » Thu Oct 04, 2007 3:29 pm


Trader Joe's are not near me, but from what I hear about them, I wish they were! There's one by my vet apparently, but since I drive that hour every other day of my life, I'm going to not do that today. There's a natural food store closer to my house, so I'll stop there first.

So, any specific amount to give her? Should I limit it to 1cc a day or should I let her go nuts? This is - if she'll actually take it.

Ledasmom

Post   » Thu Oct 04, 2007 3:39 pm


If you can find fresh cranberries, it's worth trying those. I just found out that my pigs love them, although they are not allowed to have very many. Cutting them in half would probably make them easier to eat.

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Smoskaly
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Post   » Thu Oct 04, 2007 9:55 pm


You could also try frozen cranberries, letting them defrost on the kitchen counter before giving them to the pigs. Mine learned to like them fairly quickly. Unfortunately, I don't know how much is an appropriate amount when trying to combat cystitis.

Tracis
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salana
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Post   » Thu Oct 04, 2007 10:56 pm


I've drunk half a gallon of cranberry juice every day for the past three days and it has helped, but not cured, my UTI.

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somechick

Post   » Fri Oct 05, 2007 8:33 am


Okay well it seems like Critterberries are good, but maybe not cutting it in Henry's situation -- it seems like most things are not cutting it. We'll see how she takes the juice today.

I know I haven't gotten much homeopathic advice, but, uh, is this stuff *supposed* to be colorless, odorless, and tasteless? I mean, it just appears as if there's water in there. Weird.

And again, is it really possible there's a stone or other obstruction in there that we aren't seeing on the multiple x-rays and ultrasounds? Or maybe it's just a cystitis I have to somehow deal with. But nothings helping. Hmm.

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salana
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Post   » Fri Oct 05, 2007 6:12 pm


I know I haven't gotten much homeopathic advice, but, uh, is this stuff *supposed* to be colorless, odorless, and tasteless? I mean, it just appears as if there's water in there. Weird.

Yeah, it's homeopathic medicine--it probably is just water in there. The way homeopathy "works" is that they take an active ingredient and dilute it a lot. Then they dilute it some more. Then they dilute it again, and say the water is behaving like the thing that may or may not be in there. Anything that has like "cranberry 3X" or "nightshade 10X" on the back is homeopathic.

Herbal supplements will be listed in mg, or mcg generally. Like "Chanca piedra 200mcg" or "Echinacea 600mg" or "dong quai 50mg". They may not help, they may have harmful effects, but there is an active ingredient.

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somechick

Post   » Wed Oct 17, 2007 11:29 am


Just an update here. She is still crying while peeing, although it *seems* less loud and less long. Maybe the Bactrim is killing the E. Coli, maybe the magic water is doing something. Only time will tell really. She also started zooming around her cage. Henry is not a zoomer, so at first I thought she was panicking over something, but she's been doing it more often and doesn't seem distraught. So maybe she's feeling slightly better. For two whole days her weight was up too! So I thought there might actually be weight gain occurring. But now she's back to her new-normal weight. And that's fine, but eh, I was hoping we could beef her up since each time she goes in for something, she drops a little bit.

But then again, I might just be seeing and hearing things and wishing for stuff that I want to happen and it's all in my head. But that's the update for now.

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sef1268

Post   » Wed Oct 17, 2007 2:46 pm


Hooray for zoomies! That could be a very good sign.

Did you think you'll put her back on Shilintong? Did your homeopathic person say anything about that? Have you decided if you'll go back to see her or not?

Glad to hear Henry is doing a little better. Keep it up, H-nug!

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somechick

Post   » Wed Oct 17, 2007 3:11 pm


I've not gone back to the Shilintong, since it didn't seem to do anything for her except make her angry. That stuff smells like bullion cubes grandma would use for gravy-making! Homeopathic doc thought it would help her but since I said it did not, that's when she gave me the magical bottles. I wish I knew if A) either of these things are working or if I'm making it all up, and B) if it's one or the other, the Bactrim or the homeopathic stuff. Curses!

I'm going to go back to see homeopathic doc next week for a follow up, but will probably drop it after that. I'd like to at least have another set of ears to hear Nug's current crying volume and length.

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Zoe

Post   » Wed Oct 17, 2007 3:12 pm


I thought it was cute how my huge girl Serena would run full speed around her cage a lot. Now I realized she does it more when she is in pain. She's has stone and sludge problems. She get's mighty irritable when she's not feeling good. But I don't know if this is the case with Henry or not. That's only my experience with Serena.

Definitely don't use sweetened cranberry juice.

I'm just catching up with this thread. Hang in there Henry!

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somechick

Post   » Fri Oct 19, 2007 8:11 am


I thought about the pain or panicking thing too, but she does seem to be in less pain now. And her condo-buddy Dudley zooms all the time making burble sounds and bopping. I do watch her to see if she's in distress and she doesn't seem to be. After a lap or two around the place she rests in her potty. She's also taking the critical care willingly. Sanford eats it right off the spoon and begs for more - Henry's not *that* good but it is less of a hassle.

Obviously I'll continue to monitor her and see where it goes. Less crying is better than loud and long wheeks every minute. Could it have been the E. Coli wreaking havoc? Does anyone think it's the Bactrim helping vs. the homeopathic stuff?

She's been on Bactrim a few times throughout this whole thing so I don't know why it wouldn't have helped ease the pain before.

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Mum
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Post   » Fri Oct 19, 2007 9:25 am


Have you had a culture to ensure that the e.coli is gone?

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