For the love of Pete! Ozzy's med thread

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slavetofuzzy
4 the Good of all Pigs

Post   » Thu Mar 27, 2008 8:18 am


Once again, thank you tracis! I will be giving my first go at it tonight-after a stiff drink! I'll let you know how it goes.

Oh, and my vet gave me regular needles. Now I'm wishing I had the butterfly ones. Can they be ordered at Valley Vet too? I will check later today. Gotta head out to work now.

slavetofuzzy
4 the Good of all Pigs

Post   » Thu Mar 27, 2008 7:02 pm


Well, that did NOT go well!

After about 10 tries and several pokes that didn't make it all the way in, I got about 15 ml in him out of 20. He is a big time squirmer. And I'm a big time sissy.

I don't remember him bleeding when Dr. A did this yesterday. Why does he bleed so now? Poor baby.

Tracis
Let Sleeping Pigs Lie

Post   » Fri Mar 28, 2008 3:39 am


I have heard that it gets easier the more you do it.

I do not know if you can order butterfly needles from Valley Vet. From what others have posted, most people buy the supplies directly from their vet's office.

Mum once posted that she bought them online, here.

slavetofuzzy
4 the Good of all Pigs

Post   » Sat Mar 29, 2008 8:03 am


I am a wimp. I am a wuss. I am admitting defeat. I believe sticking small animals is best left for the seasoned experts. Sigh.

I tried again last night with a butterfly needle and this was easier to get in him, although he barely has enough skin to grab and tent, but pushing the fluid was harder. He kept jumping and turning around to bite me. After 5 cc the needle came out (I was trying to hold it with a couple of fingers but he was too squirmy).

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Mum
I GAVE, dammit!

Post   » Sat Mar 29, 2008 10:55 am


It can be tricky to get the hang of it, but with practice you will!

Make sure the needle stays the right way up (this is easier with a butterfly set), otherwise you can't push the fluids in properly. I usually put pigs in a cuddle cup so they don't have anywhere to run. You can put the cuddle cup between your knees so the pig can't turn around as you're sticking them. And put a treat - lettuce or carrots - at the face end of the cup, so the pig will be distracted for the initial stick.

Make sure your fluids are baby-bottle warm.

slavetofuzzy
4 the Good of all Pigs

Post   » Mon Mar 31, 2008 9:31 pm


Dr. A called tonight and has agreed to put Oz on a trial of Actigall! I love that she is open minded. She read the link I sent her and further researched the drug on several vet and med sites. I will pick up the pills tomorrow and start him on it tomorrow evening.

As far as the subcues-I have not mustered the courage to revisit that torture, but when I do I will be sure to warm the fluids. And rethink the way I hold him. I had him in a cuddle cup but I think I will have to get on the floor and wedge him somehow between my legs.

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Bugs Mom

Post   » Mon Mar 31, 2008 9:48 pm


StF, I would not have the courage for sub-q's either. These little guys are such drama queens it's hard to tell real pain from pretend!

Great on getting the med and I hope it works perfectly for you guys.

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Mum
I GAVE, dammit!

Post   » Mon Mar 31, 2008 10:46 pm


Great that your vet has okayed the Actigall trial - let us know how it goes.

Subcues are a pain. But sometimes they must be done :-p

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Lynx
RESIST

Post   » Mon Mar 31, 2008 11:17 pm


I hope it is successful for you!

Tracis
Let Sleeping Pigs Lie

Post   » Tue Apr 01, 2008 1:44 am


I hope the Actigall is helpful for Ozzy, and I'm also sending good-luck wishes for you and the subcues. :)

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crazycheryl

Post   » Tue Apr 01, 2008 12:35 pm


Love, love, love Dr. A! Hope Ozzy responds to the meds and that you become more comfortable with the subcues.

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mkkayla
Supporter in '14

Post   » Tue Apr 01, 2008 1:00 pm


I've been giving SQ's to Bonnie for about 6 weeks now. I still dread them. She still hates them and, yes ,sometimes she bleeds... a lot, but sometimes not at all. Sometimes she tolerates them better than others. I do not know what the difference is. Site? Perhaps, but I can't always pick my site. She squirms so when she knows it is coming-and she knows when I tent her skin IT IS coming-that I am pretty much blind sticking now-wherever the needle goes in, it goes in.and it is not always were I tented. I am often sticking a moving target as she scurries off my lap despite my best attempt to keep her still.

This morning it took 3 sticks, the first one must have went through because when I drew back to check placement I got air. Pulled out and stuck again, this time it didn't go in far enough and my attempts to push it in further didn't work. Third time was the charm. And it was in a good place which means she didn't scream and buck and spasm and the fluid went in relatively easy and no blood after. Bad start but good finish.

I have gone to every other day SQ fluid, she was getting it twice a day for two weeks, then once a day for a week, now for the past three weeks I've gone to every other day. She still gets stuck nightly for her SQ gentamycin-which she hates even worse than the fluids. Her skin was really friable and she bled after each stick. Now she only bleeds occassionally. It does take practice but I think the SQ's are worth it in the long run. Or at least I hope so. Good luck.

slavetofuzzy
4 the Good of all Pigs

Post   » Wed Apr 02, 2008 8:15 am


mkkayla, it's good to know after so much time it is not getting easier for you! ;) Seriously, it makes me feel like maybe I'm not such a failure. Do you do this by yourself or is someone helping?

Sometimes I feel like I could do it better by myself. Terry's hands are so big, they get in the way and for as manly as he is, he seems to not like the sticking part either.

slavetofuzzy
4 the Good of all Pigs

Post   » Thu Apr 03, 2008 7:43 am


So now I have to deal with his weight loss. He's a petite guy (mostly hair) and at his heaviest back in November '07 he weighed 1208 gm.

Today he is 914. It's been a very slow, steady decline. The biggest drop came in December when he had surgery.

He got back up to 1082 in January. He's eating hay, veggies, some pellets and drinking water.

Should I actively start pushing Critical Care? How much?

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Lynx
RESIST

Post   » Thu Apr 03, 2008 8:33 am


Whatever he will take?

You could hand feed some and also put a little on a plate in his cage.

slavetofuzzy
4 the Good of all Pigs

Post   » Fri Apr 04, 2008 3:32 pm


Does Critical Care make their poos soft? I hand fed him some yesterday. I think he got about 10 cc's down. I gave him a syringe full of water in between each syringe of CC so I lost count!

I don't know what I should be more worried about, the soft globby poos or the way it was before with teeny tiny poos.

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Lynx
RESIST

Post   » Fri Apr 04, 2008 3:38 pm


I don't think it does. Maybe some funky bacteria in his gut?

slavetofuzzy
4 the Good of all Pigs

Post   » Fri Apr 04, 2008 3:50 pm


This poor guy. I have some BeneBac. I will try giving him some of that to see if it helps.

He hates to see me coming anymore. I feel terrible that he equates me with torture.

I let him roam around on the couch last night after his meds and brought out Marleau too. Just to see if it would perk him up. It did! He got his "brr-waggle" going! They were closely supervised and Ozzy loved having a girly to snuggle up to. Mr. Piggy never lets him do that!

Tracis
Let Sleeping Pigs Lie

Post   » Fri Apr 04, 2008 3:54 pm


Ozzy has the rock star magic. ;)

I hope the BeneBac helps him. Has he started taking Actigall?

cutemomomi
Obey My Authority

Post   » Fri Apr 04, 2008 3:56 pm


STF, I know you hate to be equated with the "torturer", but you are just trying to care for your precious boy.
I am sure after this is all passed, he too will appreciate this...
Okay fine, *maybe* he will appreciate this!

I mean look at McMac, he hated the twice dailly flushing while he had the abscess on his penis, but hey, look at him now, no grudge! :p

Once Ozzy feels better, I am sure tons of hugs and yummies will bribe him back to his old self. :)
*hugs*

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