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sef1268

Post   » Wed Nov 26, 2008 9:45 am


That is amazing. I wish I had known about Actigal when Zachary was going through all of his stone issues. :(

What dosage is Henry on?

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snowflakey
E's Moriarity

Post   » Wed Nov 26, 2008 1:03 pm


Wow. Henry is a champ, and what a cutie! I'm so glad he's doing well.

EllieMom

Post   » Fri Nov 28, 2008 10:30 pm


yay, Henry! I get so worried whenever I see his page come up. I love the picture of the big boy standing up on his hind legs. He really is "some pig!"

Joannt
Wheekness for Pigs

Post   » Sat Nov 29, 2008 4:54 pm


I am so glad to hear Henry is doing well. Also glad to hear about the dietary changes that you have made. We have been fortunate not to have a recurrence of a stone (knock on Coroplast!) but I think lessening the limestone is a good idea and I have also switched Evey to KM pellets, which she loves.

It is so helpful to hear about how a long-lived piggy is getting along and the various things that seem to aid in their longevity.

Evey went on some TMS this morning and I am hoping her news is as good as Henry's. Evey sends him a special piggy scruffle.

TwoWhitePiggies

Post   » Sat Nov 29, 2008 5:42 pm


I have no idea if the additional dietary changes are going to make one bit of difference. The main thing I am seeing, though, is that Henry is happy and bright-eyed. We are now just about two months past his surgery.

Sef, to answer your question, my vet didn't include the concentration on the current bottle of Actigall, so I will have to ask next week when the office is open again.

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JoePig

Post   » Mon Dec 01, 2008 12:15 pm


TwoWhitePiggies,

I would also appreciate knowing this, plus any information on dosing, as I have a pig with inoperable stones.

Sincerely,
JoePig

capybara
Supporter in '13

Post   » Mon Dec 01, 2008 2:24 pm


Hi guys! Glad to hear Henry is doing so well! Count me in, too, for wanting to know more about your Actigall dose. Chester had been on Urisodol, and it may have helped prevent more stones from forming, but it definitely did nothing for the ones he already had. I'd love to know to help pigs in the future.

TwoWhitePiggies

Post   » Tue Dec 02, 2008 9:55 pm


Regarding the Actigall:

Henry started out on 150 mg/mL for eight days. After that, he has been on a maintenance dose of 75 mg/ML once a day.

While on the maintenance dose and before his surgery, he kicked out a small stone and several stone flakes.

When his big giant stone was removed, the vet said that it was really slimy, and she attributed that to the Actigall. She said there was no sludge in his urine, just that stone.

So far, on the maintenance dose, he does regularly kick out sludge. He has also kicked out one small stone.

Today he looks like he's hurting, and I suspect that he is working on kicking out another stone. He continues to urinate just fine, so I am just going to watch and wait tonight and see what happens. In the meanwhile, he's eating and drinking and chasing Frost around.

slavetofuzzy
4 the Good of all Pigs

Post   » Wed Dec 03, 2008 9:50 am


Isn't urisodol the generic for Actigall?

TwoWhitePiggies

Post   » Wed Dec 03, 2008 11:59 am


slavetofuzzy - yes, I believe that is correct.

Talishan
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Post   » Wed Dec 03, 2008 9:38 pm


Yes, it is.

StF: Vicki's protocol -- http://www.guinealynx.info/forums/viewtopic.php?p=1237793#1237793 -- is four times Dr. Ahearn's. The protocol above is twice Vicki's, or eight times Dr. Ahearn's.

Right now Sirius is on Vicki's vet's protocol.

For what that's worth. If the given animal can tolerate it, I'd say the more the better, especially during the initial 8-day period.

TWP, who gave you this? K-State?

slavetofuzzy
4 the Good of all Pigs

Post   » Thu Dec 04, 2008 8:43 am


T- we both know Dr. A is very cautious when administering drugs! I hope Sirius reaps some benefits from the Actigall as it seems Henry is.

Go Grandpa Henry!

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rshevin

Post   » Thu Dec 04, 2008 12:38 pm


Do we have any idea at all HOW actigal works? The only literature I can find talks about gall stones and says only minimal amounts are excreted in the urine at all.

TwoWhitePiggies

Post   » Thu Dec 04, 2008 2:18 pm


TWP, who gave you this? K-State?

Our local vet, Dr. Miller, spent a lot of time making phone calls and on the web to get her information. I know that she talked to Dr. Ridgeway in Long Beach.

When Jim e-mailed our former vet at K-State (she's now at one of the universities in Oklahoma, heading their new exotics program, lucky Oklahomans), she seemed to be familiar with the Actigall, because she said that she didn't think it would work on a stone as big as the one Henry had. To me that says she wasn't unfamiliar with the treatment.

rshevin, I think it's still a mystery. Even Dr. Miller said that the vets she talked to said, "We're not sure why it works, but for some pigs, it seems to."

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rshevin

Post   » Thu Dec 04, 2008 9:09 pm


Thanks TWP. I know that will be my vet's first question if I ever bring it up for Piggy.

Talishan
You can quote me

Post   » Sat Dec 06, 2008 9:14 pm


[Please refer to:

http://www.guinealynx.info/forums/viewtopic.php?p=1465524#1465524

... for updated post with corrections - Lynx]

TwoWhitePiggies

Post   » Sat Dec 06, 2008 10:22 pm


Henry's is mixed with celery flavor. We aren't sure if he really likes it, or if he just knows drinking it down means he gets lettuce afterward.

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Lynx
RESIST

Post   » Sat Dec 06, 2008 11:16 pm


Thanks for gathering this info together, Talishan.

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TWP_2

Post   » Sun Dec 07, 2008 12:31 pm


Please note that he has always been given 0.5 mL daily, on either of the following doses:
Henry started out on 150 mg/mL for eight days. After that, he has been on a maintenance dose of 75 mg/ML once a day.
In other words, he was given 0.5 mL of 150 mg/mL concentration at first, and since then has been given 0.5 mL of 75 mg/mL daily.

Talishan
You can quote me

Post   » Sun Dec 07, 2008 9:51 pm


Okay. That makes Dr. Miller's dosing regimen essentially the same as that developed by Vicki's vet.

Lynx, I know how badly you hate to do this, but is there any way to modify my post to reflect TWP_2's information above?

I wouldn't want anyone reading to actually double the dose both Vicki's vet and Dr. Miller developed.

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