Aminophylline (Theophylline, Theo-Dur, etc.)
The asthmatic has arthritis too? Our arthritics are on Rimadyl. Zag´s managed to avoid arthritis thus far.
Is Meloxicam better than Rimadyl?
We get our stuff compounded at Summit Compounding Pharmacy in Toronto. Several drugs. It´s cheaper than our local compunding pharmacy even with the air express figured in. I don´t know if they ship over the border.
Is Meloxicam better than Rimadyl?
We get our stuff compounded at Summit Compounding Pharmacy in Toronto. Several drugs. It´s cheaper than our local compunding pharmacy even with the air express figured in. I don´t know if they ship over the border.
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- Little Jo Wheek
No, actually I was just providing a bit of background on the drug. I immediately thought about carprofen since the meloxicam was shot down. I have yet to thouroughly investigate.
It sounds as if meloxicam is newer than carprofen, but I have yet to see any comparison studies. Carprofen is not a human drug and meloxicam is originally from human medicine.
In any case, Connie said that perhaps an NSAID and bronchodilator could be used concurrently depending on the drugs chosen and contraindications. I ordered an exotics formulary (since I am embarrasingly without one) which should be here by Friday. All bronchodilators are not created equally, and I know NSAIDS certainly are no exception. Supposedly it has some of the newer drugs in it, but I´m sure we´re using others not mentioned. It will at least give me a bit more knowledge on the subject. I still don´t understand enough about pharmacology to recite everything off the top of my head. I wish I were omnipotent, I suppose.
We have a great compounding pharmacy for veterinary means here as well. It usually takes a week or so by mail to get the drugs, depending on what is ordered. Pretty reasonable, anyway, it´s just not as convenient as picking it off of the shelf!
It sounds as if meloxicam is newer than carprofen, but I have yet to see any comparison studies. Carprofen is not a human drug and meloxicam is originally from human medicine.
In any case, Connie said that perhaps an NSAID and bronchodilator could be used concurrently depending on the drugs chosen and contraindications. I ordered an exotics formulary (since I am embarrasingly without one) which should be here by Friday. All bronchodilators are not created equally, and I know NSAIDS certainly are no exception. Supposedly it has some of the newer drugs in it, but I´m sure we´re using others not mentioned. It will at least give me a bit more knowledge on the subject. I still don´t understand enough about pharmacology to recite everything off the top of my head. I wish I were omnipotent, I suppose.
We have a great compounding pharmacy for veterinary means here as well. It usually takes a week or so by mail to get the drugs, depending on what is ordered. Pretty reasonable, anyway, it´s just not as convenient as picking it off of the shelf!
Checked with one of our vets and in Canada meloxicam is licensed for use in dogs and the vet hadn´t been aware that it was a human drug. 1 drop per kg daily and the container gives precise doses.
We´re taking Tira off the Rimadyl til Friday and then we´ll decide if we´ll try her on the meloxicam. (I asked about asthma with it and the vet couldn´t find anything that contraindicated it.??????)
We´re taking Tira off the Rimadyl til Friday and then we´ll decide if we´ll try her on the meloxicam. (I asked about asthma with it and the vet couldn´t find anything that contraindicated it.??????)
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- Little Jo Wheek
Hmmm... I wonder what this arthritis literature I found is about, then. I am definitely going to talk it over with my vet tomorrow. I think she´s in, anyway. She works only a few days a week.
I would like to do the terbutaline and meloxicam concurrently if allowable, since the pred seems to be "wearing off" quicker and quicker. I need to get her maintained soon!
The dose for the meloxicam Connie sent is 0.2 mg/kg/BID, but she said it could potentially go up to 0.5mg/kg/BID if needed. Once she sees improvement, she reduces to SID.
meloxicam is sold by Boehringer Ingelheim Labs as Mobic. It was FDA approved April of 2000. It is also an enolic acid NSAID (whatever that means).
This is a quick summary of the drug, but I found other sources also confirming the information:
www.edruginfo.com/dud_meloxicam.htm
I would like to do the terbutaline and meloxicam concurrently if allowable, since the pred seems to be "wearing off" quicker and quicker. I need to get her maintained soon!
The dose for the meloxicam Connie sent is 0.2 mg/kg/BID, but she said it could potentially go up to 0.5mg/kg/BID if needed. Once she sees improvement, she reduces to SID.
meloxicam is sold by Boehringer Ingelheim Labs as Mobic. It was FDA approved April of 2000. It is also an enolic acid NSAID (whatever that means).
This is a quick summary of the drug, but I found other sources also confirming the information:
www.edruginfo.com/dud_meloxicam.htm
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I saw Mobic listed as a new drug advance in the National Enquirer - for people.
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The vet was looking under the contraindications for dogs and couldn´t find any. He did mention that asthma wasn´t all that common with dogs(I think - I was whacked out on Tylenol 3´s)which was why it might have been left off.
It´s been licensed for dogs for over a year up here - maybe 2. So bizarre it isn´t in the book as being for people. Definitely a veterinary med rather than a human one up here.
So does that mean Rimadyl can´t be used with asthma patients?
And where is the arthritis localized?
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The vet was looking under the contraindications for dogs and couldn´t find any. He did mention that asthma wasn´t all that common with dogs(I think - I was whacked out on Tylenol 3´s)which was why it might have been left off.
It´s been licensed for dogs for over a year up here - maybe 2. So bizarre it isn´t in the book as being for people. Definitely a veterinary med rather than a human one up here.
So does that mean Rimadyl can´t be used with asthma patients?
And where is the arthritis localized?
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- Little Jo Wheek
Yeah, I just have to look up the enolic acid part. I´m sure that there are different types of NSAIDS, which is why that part was included in the description. I would like to figure out a bit more about the physiologic differences.
National Enquirer, humph. Treasured literature, I´m sure.
Not as far as I know with the carprofen. Then again, it is a canine drug and as you say--dogs rarely get asthma.
I don´t know about the arthritis. Osteoarthritis it says. Pretty general.
National Enquirer, humph. Treasured literature, I´m sure.
Not as far as I know with the carprofen. Then again, it is a canine drug and as you say--dogs rarely get asthma.
I don´t know about the arthritis. Osteoarthritis it says. Pretty general.
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You might consider high frequency ultrasound treatments as long as it isn´t in the hocks - too small. Also light laser treatments can help.
Soot has Arthritis in her shoulder, knee and hocks. She could barely walk before the ultrasound treatments. Now she´s running. Badly, but running none the less. My vet couldn´t believe the improvement in her.
We took the xrays to the physical therapist so she knew where to concentrate the head of the ultrasound machine. She also called the vet to get more details for treating.
Soot has Arthritis in her shoulder, knee and hocks. She could barely walk before the ultrasound treatments. Now she´s running. Badly, but running none the less. My vet couldn´t believe the improvement in her.
We took the xrays to the physical therapist so she knew where to concentrate the head of the ultrasound machine. She also called the vet to get more details for treating.
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- Little Jo Wheek
I think you´ve mistaken something I´ve said. The meloxicam (NSAID) is for the asthma. My sow does not have arthritis, the NSAID is just marketed in the human fields for arthritis. NSAIDS have many different effects and the anti-inflammatory action may indeed help with her asthma. Especially when paired with a bronchodilator.