Henry - crusty eyes, lethargic

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Mum
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Post   » Tue Sep 16, 2008 9:45 am


Poor Henry.

I'm sorry, I don't have any advice to offer.

Is Henry on daily metacam?

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somechick

Post   » Tue Sep 16, 2008 10:51 am


I do give it to her when she seems worse, but I guess I should start it every day, since it doesn't seem to be getting better.

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Lynx
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Post   » Tue Sep 16, 2008 3:15 pm


I was wondering about a pain medication too.

I'm so sorry for Henry. I think we all hate having an animal in pain.

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somechick

Post   » Tue Sep 16, 2008 3:37 pm


I just know long term Metacam isn't good. And she doesn't need something like Bupronex ot make her a zombie. Should I ask my vet about any other meds?

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Mum
I GAVE, dammit!

Post   » Tue Sep 16, 2008 5:38 pm


I have a pig here who's been on daily metacam for 3 years.

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somechick

Post   » Wed Sep 17, 2008 8:33 am


Is it once / twice a day? Is it at a regular or lower dose?

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I GAVE, dammit!

Post   » Wed Sep 17, 2008 9:13 am


I give him 0.2ml once a day - he weighs 2lbs 9oz. You can give 0.2ml/kg.

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somechick

Post   » Tue Nov 25, 2008 8:46 am


Here we are again.

Yesterday morning Henry had really gross poo, mushy and clumped together, but I thought nothing of it, maybe it was just veggie overload, because she was acting normal otherwise. At noon I gave critterberries and everyone climbed bars and scarfed them down. After that she stopped eating completely. I noticed some pretty intense gas on her left side, gave her some simethicone and hand fed around 4 and around 9. She wouldn't eat anything, even rejected critterberries, which is my litmus test.

I get up this morning and the gas is visibly less, I didn't want to feed veggies but I wanted to see if she'd eat anything so I only gave her a few pieces of lettuce. She also ate half a CB. I thought we were all better, but she didn't follow her morning routine of veg, food, hay. I handfed and gave more simethicone at 7am.

For the past 2 hours she has been drinking, went to her hay voluntarily, and been at her bowl some, so it's better than yesterday, but my paranoia tells me it's not 100% better. But her poops are small, not even poop shaped and all held together by string. And there isn't a lot of them.

My question is: is this a situation where I try to get a vet appt tonight or just monitor. I have to even hope that my vet is in this week otherwise I'm waiting until Monday or I'd have to see someone else.

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Lynx
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Post   » Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:23 am


I would be afraid of bloat. If you aren't going to see a vet (or if you are), have that in mind. You want to be completely prepared for what you should do.

gl/emergency.html#bloat

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somechick

Post   » Tue Nov 25, 2008 1:22 pm


We're going tonight, shes visibly less gassy today and her poos now seem small but normal, I'm continuing to hand feed. She's been at her bowl but I don't think she's eating anything substantial.

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somechick

Post   » Tue Oct 05, 2010 6:29 pm


Okay I've searched the site but I don't know, I'm not coming up with anything. What are the drugs you guys have used to relax the urethra when dealing with stones? Henry has two, one was plucked out last week but she's still crying and has a wet bum. Before / if I go in for surgery I want to get her weight up, but I want to see if any of these meds might help instead first. Just a reminder Henry is female.

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Let Sleeping Pigs Lie

Post   » Tue Oct 05, 2010 7:07 pm


I'm so sorry that Henry has stones, and am sending good thoughts.

Is she receiving any pain medication? That might help.

Shilintong is one supplement that has been used to relax the urethra.
LINKS - Shilintong

Polycitra is also used, but not to relax the urethra.
LINKS - Polycitra® / Potassium Citrate

Lynx recently updated the Bladder Stones page:
http://www.guinealynx.info/stones.html

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somechick

Post   » Tue Oct 05, 2010 7:35 pm


Yeah I saw those pages but I guess it's not what I'm looking for. I thought there was some drug to relax the muscles down there so she's able to pee free-er or something. My whole dang herd seems to have stones all of a sudden, this is nuts. I would just take her in for surgery, but her weight is low, so I don't know that I'm comfortable with that just yet. We're handfeeding and yada yada, the usual. I've done Shilintong with Henry in the past (don't read the whole thread but she's had bizzaro bladder issues from the get go) and it hasn't worked.

She's on Metacam and Bactrim.

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Lynx
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Post   » Tue Oct 05, 2010 9:43 pm


I wonder if something like Diazepam might help.

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sef1268

Post   » Tue Oct 05, 2010 10:07 pm


That's what I was thinking, too, Lynx. In looking at drug info for Diazepam, it looks like it is sometimes used as an appetite stimulant in cats, too. With Henry being under-weight, I wonder if it might have the added benefit of boosting her appetite. ?

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salana
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Post   » Tue Oct 05, 2010 10:57 pm


Actigall seems like it might make her stones slimier and easier to squeeze out.

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somechick

Post   » Wed Oct 06, 2010 7:37 am


Well it seems like this stone might be too big to pass, Dr. D's thinking with the muscle relaxant is to help her urethra stop spasming and help her pee more normal again. She said her urethra can become irritated and spasm sometimes after passing a large stone (I guess what was plucked out last week). I dunno though, I don't think I'm realistically looking to pass this stone, just help her pee more normally.

But I don't know if that will stop her crying while peeing or wet bum issue.

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sef1268

Post   » Wed Oct 06, 2010 8:14 am


Actigall seems like it might make her stones slimier and easier to squeeze out.
Results from those here who have tried it are mixed at best, including my own experience with Otis, which had a very poor outcome. Given the safety concerns surrounding its use in rabbits and guinea pigs (see contraindications here ), I really can't recommend it.

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somechick

Post   » Wed Oct 06, 2010 8:32 pm


Holy...I just read over this whole thread again, what a NIGHTMARE!

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somechick

Post   » Sun Nov 14, 2010 9:09 pm


Back. We had the other stone removed. Crying while peeing didn't stop, but she recovered. About a week ago I was checking her out and noticed this...lump of who knows what IN her butt. The vet removed it and I don't think that we got a confirmation on what exactly it was. Some sort of wart like lesion? I don't know.

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But today, now we have ooze and her outter girl parts seem swollen and she seems to have an open wound outside of her parts.

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Henry is already on Baytril once a day for the pasturella that showed up in her culture that we got during the stone ordeal. Her bladder is apparently wrecked, thick, adhesions, so it'll never be normal. But now there's THIS butt thing that happened out of nowhere. Has anyone ever seen anything like this? I don't know what to do or where to go from here. She screams all the time, while peeing and pooping. She seems to not want to eat and just doesn't seem herself. I'm feeding her. I don't want to give up on her, I want to do everything I can, but I don't know what this is or see it getting better. Can anyone offer anything?

And how do you know when...It's Time?

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