Alice- female discharge

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linshad02
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Post   » Thu Feb 24, 2011 8:50 pm


I am going to start a thread for Alice.
Almost 6 week old Silkie sow.
Weighs daily at same time. Current weight: 8.3 oz
Steady weight within .1 oz

Today, noticed clear discharge from her girl bits. Discharge is sticky.
Did not smell like anything until 1 hour ago. Smells slightly fishy.
Wiped with warm cloth periodically throughout the day.
Vet appointment tomorrow morning.

No change in activity or appetite. Still as chatty as always. Slightly cranky and tries to nip when I am wiping her. Pain?

Is she "in heat"? Is this the beginning of a UTI?
I'm clueless and sort of scared, being a beginner at this.
Thanks for bearing with me.

Talishan
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Post   » Thu Feb 24, 2011 10:33 pm


Guinea pigs do not menstruate like humans. They do have heat or seasons per se, but rarely will you really be able to tell.

UTI is a possibility; so is a uterine infection. If it is a pyometra, that requires immediate attention but if there is a discharge (open pyometra), that is a little better than a closed pyometra.

Please let us know what the vet says. Is your vet cavy-knowledgeable? Not all vets are; in fact, most aren't.

If not, you have a couple good vets available to you: Dr. Chris Griffin in Kannapolis and Dr. Lauren Powers in Charlotte/Huntersville.

http://www.guinealynx.info/cabinet/index.php/Veterinarians_North_Carolina

I mention this because you say you're new to guinea pigs. She needs a vet (and kudos to you for knowing that), but the vet needs to know guinea pigs.

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linshad02
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Post   » Thu Feb 24, 2011 10:53 pm


I am holding out hope here. There is a discharge, so open pyometra would be more likely. I'm guessing I caught it as early as can be caught, as I have to wipe her girl area each morning.
Is there any advice you can give me as far as what to expect, should this be open pyometra?
She has never been nor planned on EVER being bred. Spay is fine if needed. I've read so much here about illnesses and such, but I'm just really scared. I had a girl before who was doomed from jump. That hurt. Bad.
But Alice started healthy and I have done everything I can to make sure she stays that way.
Any advice or reassurance or reprimand is absolutely welcome.

ETA: what causes this kind of infection?

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linshad02
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Post   » Thu Feb 24, 2011 11:22 pm


I took too long to edit..
Wanted to add that there is no squeaking while peeing.
No blood in urine. It is a little milky, but no grit.
When I got her, the main veggie she got was carrot. I have decreased it, gradually to half a baby carrot twice a day.
I also give her red leaf lettuce, yellow bell pepper, and a cilantro sprig in the morning.
Evening time is green leaf, small piece of cucumber, green pepper, the other half of baby carrot. Three times a week she gets a small slice of apple.

Talishan
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Post   » Thu Feb 24, 2011 11:56 pm


If it is a pyometra (uterine infection), I have no idea what causes them. Where did you get her?

I'd lean more toward UTI, since I would think a uterine infection would be less likely in a pig this young, but I am not a vet, nor tech, nor medical professional of any kind.

I can't see doing a spay on a pig as young as 6 weeks, but again, I don't know very much about it. If it were to be an open pyometra I would *think* (repeat *think*) antibiotics could be used to treat it.

You need a vet that knows their stuff. Baytril, for example, should not be given to young cavies unless there is just absolutely no other option.

Your diet (I'm assuming unlimited access to free choice grass hay is included) sounds fine.

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Lynx
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Post   » Fri Feb 25, 2011 12:10 am


Do read over gl/uti.html

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linshad02
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Post   » Fri Feb 25, 2011 12:19 am


Thank you, Lynx and Talishan.
I have to say that I am pretty confident about it being easily treated. As much reading as I have done and as much attention I give to her, I know that she is doing everything as normal for her. She is just a little cranky when I wipe her girl area. I will update with what the vet says.
I know I say it a lot, but I am so very thankful for this forum.

Edit: free access to Timothy hay and pellets.

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linshad02
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Post   » Fri Feb 25, 2011 1:43 pm


Alice has a UTI. The vet helped to clip around her "area".
0.3 cc Bactrim twice daily.
She had a piece of hair stuck in "there".
She is a little cranky, but otherwise the same Alice as always.
She has to go in for a followup on March 11th.
Do I have to refrigerate the meds?

jedifreac

Post   » Fri Feb 25, 2011 7:08 pm


It depends on how the drug was "compounded" (with a syrup, or what have you.) Some of the mixtures have to be refrigerated, others are fine a room temperature. Call your vet if you're not sure. Sometimes they put a little sticker on there that says you must refrigerate it.

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linshad02
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Post   » Fri Feb 25, 2011 7:41 pm


It is liquid. Doesn't have a sticker so I assume no refrigeration.

C Cole-Chakotay

Post   » Fri Feb 25, 2011 8:31 pm


I'd call the vet just to be sure about refrigerating the medication. Better safe than sorry.

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linshad02
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Post   » Fri Feb 25, 2011 8:51 pm


I called. No refrigeration necessary. You can't even tell there is anything wrong with her until you turn her over. Poor kid has been so violated today. On a good note, the Bactrim has not affected her appetite. She has never been a big water drinker so I put extra on her greens. The vet told me to keep some pedia-lyte on hand, just in case.

Talishan
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Post   » Fri Feb 25, 2011 10:17 pm


You have a good vet.

Some UTI's can be very stubborn. What course of treatment were you given (i.e., 14 days, 21 days etc.)?

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linshad02
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Post   » Fri Feb 25, 2011 11:25 pm


14 days. She said she is surprised at how good her appetite is.
I'm just glad my girl is going to be ok.

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linshad02
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Post   » Sun Feb 27, 2011 11:40 am


Alice has been on Bactrim since Friday evening.
She is not a big water drinker, so I left extra on her salads.
Her poops started getting a little sausage looking so I now syringe her 2cc water every couple of hours during the day.
Her appetite has gone down slightly, however, her hay consumption has gone up.
Alice is more active now than before she got her UTI.
Swelling of her girl bits has gone down considerably and the discharge is minimal. She still squeaks when she pees, if it is a really big pee. Otherwise, she is acting pretty normal.

Talishan
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Post   » Sun Feb 27, 2011 11:03 pm


You can also offer her unflavored Pedialyte. Most guinea pigs love it and it can really supplement their fluid intake.

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linshad02
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Post   » Tue Apr 19, 2011 10:23 am


Well, off to the vet we go today.
I gave Alice a leaf of Romaine Saturday morning. By Saturday evening, her poop was softer than normal. I only gave her pepper and a half baby carrot for her evening feed.
Poop returned to normal. Sunday morning, I gave her green leaf and the poops got soft. Repeated the Saturday routine. Poop was totally normal Monday. I only gave pepper and half baby carrot for breakfast Monday. Poop was fine. I gave a small bit of green leaf last night. Poop is totally normal today.
She is steadily gaining weight.
Current age is around 3 1/2 months.
Current weight is 1 lb. 5 oz.
My current concern is that she sounds a little stuffy.
When she calls for veggies or does happy sounds, you can hear in her nose that it is stuffy.
Last night she did what I assume was a cough? It sounded almost like someone smacking their lips. She did this twice and not again. She had just eaten part of her carrot before it happened.
No crust in the eyes. No lethargy. Nothing out of the ordinary except for being a bit crabby. Will update after the vets.
Any thoughts are always welcome.

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linshad02
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Post   » Tue Apr 19, 2011 3:31 pm


Back from the vet. Alice is going to be pretty ticked off, but she can't have greens for a day or two. I have to monitor her closely to check for any signs of bloat. She said I could do the pedialyte route. If the poop continues to be soft, we may need an ultrasound.
She really is acting normal. She has always cried out when touching her belly. She is as active as always. Eating, not drinking.....
I have to syringe her water because she refuses to drink. The vet said I could put a drop or two of pedialyte in the water to encourage drinking.
I could be worrying about nothing too.

Talishan
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Post   » Tue Apr 19, 2011 10:57 pm


I don't think you are. I think you are being a responsible, caring pet owner who realizes that small prey animals do not overtly demonstrate illness until they reach the point of being unable not to; i.e., very seriously ill.

If she likes the Pedialyte, you can put the entire bottle full of it. It has to be thoroughly washed twice a day and changed out completely (then washed and bleached) about every third day, though, so it is a lot of work. Well worth it, however, if it helps hydrate her. (In my opinion. In our house my husband does all the bottle washing. ;-)

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linshad02
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Post   » Tue Apr 19, 2011 11:34 pm


Thanks for the input, Talishan. I don't mind extra work. I'm a stay at home mom. An extra water bottle won't hurt. ;)
Her gut is what worries me. Sometimes she appears to have a little bloat but drops a load of poo and is fine. Her belly is mostly squishy.
She has been biting me today. I know the vet didn't help when she palpated her belly. She wants to give it a day or two and see what she is like after not having greens. She wasn't happy at dinner with only having green pepper and carrot.
Next step will be ultrasound, if we can't figure this out.

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