Pantufinha's Medical Thread

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Regiane
Cavy Slave Since '08

Post   » Thu Jul 14, 2011 11:56 pm


I know that Odontovet had made teeth procedures in cavies, but if my vet also have experience, I go with him. The worse will be the anesthesy anyway.

I'll talk to him tomorrow and let you know.

I'll try to take some rest now, and handfeed my girl in some hours.

Thank you VERY much for all the help.

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winniewai

Post   » Fri Jul 15, 2011 12:24 am


Sorry to reply u so late~

I totally agree with Talishan, gas anesthesia is much safer.

But if Pantufinha reject to eat, her resistance maybe lower and it's more difficult for her to overcome the anesthesia. No drooling now, right? In case of drooling, it's an emergancy and needa do the surgery immediately i think... :(

Moreover, when the molars become longer n longer, it may hurt her tongue and cause abscess...

Regiane, i absolutely understand what's your feeling now, if there is any accident during the surgery, u will think all caused by u and lots of "what-if" questions... so dun feel shy to ask your vet too many questions, the vets hv the responsibility to tell you how many times they did on the same surgery as well as the success rate.

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Bytxlaura
Remembering Nemo

Post   » Fri Jul 15, 2011 12:35 am


I see waiting as prolonging the agony and possibly worsening the condition. Also, the more weight she loses, the harder the molar trimming will be on her.

Pantufinha and you will be in my thoughts! *kishes to the sweet girl*

Talishan
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Post   » Fri Jul 15, 2011 1:06 am


Perhaps your vet could consult with Odontovet if necessary?

Ditto to Winniewai and Bytxlaura both.

pinta

Post   » Fri Jul 15, 2011 1:20 am


I would not wait for the teeth filing to be done. The teeth will only overgrow more and she will lose more weight. For the best prognosis it is best NOT to wait.

She is very young for malocclusion. You need to find out why she has it. In her case I would say malocclusion is a symptom of something else.

Depite what your vet heard with the stethoscope, I would put her on heart meds right away. As many threads and posts attest, heart disease is very difficult to diagnose in pigs and often isn't diagnosed until the pig has died from it and the heart has been examined during necropsy. If she does have heart issues and is on heart meds she will be better able to withstand surgery. I suggest fortekor and vetmedin

I stink at reading xrays but on one of my pig's xrays I noticed the outline of the skin on an overhead view was not even on both sides. The outline came out further on right side. This pig has been dealing with malocclusion problems since December(he was put on heart meds right away which was a good decision as he now shows circulatory issues around the edges of one ear). Within 4 days of seeing the xray, he had an abscess on the right side which we are still dealing with 2.5 months later.

Since the abscess came to the fore, he has been eating better than he ever has and though it is unlikely, Dr. Legendre has not ruled out that brewing abscess could have contributed to the original malocclusion. He did wear a Chin-Sling but the abscess made it impossible to continue until it is dealt with.

He is only a couple of years old. Too young for malocclusion.

You vet may know of Dr. Legendre as he has done seminars in Brazil a few times. Having your vet contact him would be an excellent idea.

Talishan
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Post   » Fri Jul 15, 2011 2:47 am


Ditto to Pinta.

There is evidence of a link between heart disease and dental problems. That is not to say that every pig with malocclusion has a heart condition, nor does every heart pig have dental problems. The two conditions do, however, overlap more often than would be suggested by random chance.

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Regiane
Cavy Slave Since '08

Post   » Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:00 am


I was blaming the hay, since both Panqueca and Pantufinha developed malocclusion after I changed her hay, but it can be heart disease anyway?

The new (good) hay came today, so I'll see how Panqueca will be for now on. But Pantufinha, she needs the procedure. She is not eating by herself. Even if I cut the veggies in small pieces, she's not able to eat.

I'm trying to collect informations to send to my vet. It's almost 4AM now and I'm taking care of Pantufinha. She's still refusing to be handfed, but I could gave her 4-5 syringes of pellets + baby food mash. She's the same weight as yesterday.

I know that Dr Legendre knows a vet that works at Odontovet. So, I'll try to make my vet contact this vet, to try to contact Dr Legendre - maybe a stupid questions, but does enyone have his email?

Okay, I'm a bit desperate.

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Regiane
Cavy Slave Since '08

Post   » Fri Jul 15, 2011 4:01 am


Just sent an email to my vet. I've linked this page, and sent some informations about Odontovet and Dr Legendre. Just hoping that we can help Pantufinha.

Thanks winnie, Bytxlaura and Talishan for all the help.

Thank you very much, Pinta, for coming here. Your input is very appreciated.

C Cole-Chakotay

Post   » Fri Jul 15, 2011 4:05 am


Best wishes to you and your little one. I hope she gets her teeth sorted out.

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daisymay
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Post   » Fri Jul 15, 2011 6:19 am


Are my vets unusal? As they stick tubes down piggies noses for them to breathe. They have done this to Jessie and Jasmine, I remember I freaked when Jessie sneezed a bit of blood. I thought this putting tubes down the nose was normal.
Sending hugs to you both, I know how scary and frusratating it can be, hanging in there.

pinta

Post   » Fri Jul 15, 2011 7:48 am


Most vets don't do this as it is a fairly "new" procedure. Drt. Legendre has done the tube thru the nose thing.

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Regiane
Cavy Slave Since '08

Post   » Fri Jul 15, 2011 1:34 pm


Some news:

Pantufinha still is not eating by herself, nothing. I'm handfeeding her.

My vet called me. He contacted Dr. Herbert, experienced odontologist from Odontovet (the one who knows Dr. Legendre). They discussed Pantufinha's case and Dr. Herbert said that the better is to make the procedure as soon as possible.

My vet said he personally had made this type of procedure just twice, and that he prefers that she makes the dental procedure at Odontovet, where they have specialists in this area and better equipment. He's passing her case to a vet called Elisangela Peres de Freitas.

I contacted her by phone and I feel confident. She looks experienced with guinea pigs.

The procedure will be made on Monday, 9AM, in Campinas, the neighbour city. (the vet is out of city now, that's why it will be on monday)

Until there, I have to continue to handfeed her, plus giving her analgesic once a day and adding probiotics on the mash she's eating by syringe. They explained that during the surgery the intestinal moviments are affected, and that's why is good to insire probiotics now.

I'm feeling a bit better know. I know she'll have to pass through this, but at least, no matter what happens, I know I'm giving her the best possible. My sweet girl.

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