Norbie's Health Issue

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gvstate01

Post   » Wed Oct 26, 2011 8:36 pm


I didn't know you had them separated. After surgery my pigs always go back to their cage, vet says it helps with recovery.

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camende
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Post   » Wed Oct 26, 2011 9:29 pm


I only separated them because Bella is a spaz and I was in the GP room feeding them and she ran right into Norbie side and the cyst started to ooze/bleed. I was worried that they would hurt her.

The Vet said that I should separate her for a week or so.

But, I think after seeing how she reacted to Willow that I should put her back in the cage with the other girls. It will be harder to monitor her food and water intake (and her poops, they are still small and shaped thin and curly-its hard to describe but they are not normal yet)

I need to change the girls cage in the morning. I will do that and then put Norbie in on the clean bedding and see how it goes.

Tracis
Let Sleeping Pigs Lie

Post   » Wed Oct 26, 2011 9:34 pm


Norbie looks so cute. :)

I've seen the type of poop that you are describing; Sakura had those. They cleared up after she started eating more.

Do any of your girls like to chew on things? You'll want to make sure they they don't remove Norbie's stitches for her.

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camende
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Post   » Wed Oct 26, 2011 9:48 pm


I think if anyone would chew it would be Norbie. She used to barber Rosie. Rosie had long hair and I swear, Norbie would eat it like spaghetti.

Norbie is really the piggie who checks everyone out and makes sure they are ok. She's also the piggie that moves all the cozies together so she can be close to the other girls. So, I know she misses them!

But, I work til 9pm tomorrow night so I won't be home to monitor her.

I don't want to put her in for a "visit" either and then disrupt her by putting her back in quarantine.

I'm off Friday-Sunday so I could probably put her back on friday and monitor her all weekend.

Talishan
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Post   » Thu Oct 27, 2011 2:20 am


Is there any way you can split part of the cage off and put Norbie in with just a gridwall between her and her cagemates?

Alternatively, if you have her in a petstore cage to minimize moving around, if you can, just put the whole cage inside her normal cage. The others will walk around it and talk to her and chew on it to get her out. ;-)

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camende
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Post   » Thu Oct 27, 2011 9:33 am


I could probably figure out a way to split the cage. The quarantine cage is probably too big to put inside the cage. It is a store bought cage but it is slightly smaller then a 2x3 CC cage. The 3 girls's cage is 2x6 so it would give the 2 piggies 2x3 of space. I suppose I can look and see what it looks like.

I have extra grids so I know I can split it but I would probably have to give Norbie 2x2 and that seems soooo small for her. But, its only for a week or so.

I will see what I can do. I would love to put her with her buddies!

Documentatio of Weight:
934 the morning OF Surgery..10-24-2011
874g 9:00Am, 10-25-2011
862g 6:30am , 10-26-2011
856g 6:00pm, 10-26-2011
852g 8:30AM, 10-27-2011

(I think I will jump for joy if I weigh her and she just doesn't lose any more!)

Tracis
Let Sleeping Pigs Lie

Post   » Thu Oct 27, 2011 3:34 pm


We will all jump for joy with you. :)

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camende
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Post   » Thu Oct 27, 2011 11:02 pm


Well start jumping because she is at 858. I was shocked because I fed her "breakfast" and I was at work until 9pm.

So, she is up at little from this morning!! Yeah!

Documentatio of Weight:
934 the morning OF Surgery..10-24-2011
874g 9:00Am, 10-25-2011
862g 6:30am , 10-26-2011
856g 6:00pm, 10-26-2011
852g 8:30AM, 10-27-2011
858g, 9:58pm, 12-27-2011

and her water bottle is down quit a bit from this morning!

Tomorrow I am going to clean the entire GP room (we have company coming this weekend) and then see what I can do about getting Norbie back with the girls!

The husband's oldest daughter and her two kids (hellions) are coming and I am going to close the GP room door and we are putting a "sleigh bell" on the door so if someone opens it, we will hear it! (thanks to my grandmom for the long strip of bells on leather that make a LOUD noise).

Tracis
Let Sleeping Pigs Lie

Post   » Fri Oct 28, 2011 12:59 am


Yay Norbie! Keep up the good work. :)

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Bugs Mom

Post   » Fri Oct 28, 2011 3:08 am


Horray. I'm mentally jumping with you!

C Cole-Chakotay

Post   » Fri Oct 28, 2011 8:31 am


Good girl, Norbie!

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camende
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Post   » Fri Oct 28, 2011 11:05 am


OK, Norbie has lost more weight! I cannot understand it. This morning, I cleaned the big cage and put the 3 of them back together.

I waited to weigh Norbie because she has been eating non-stop for the last hour. So, I was thinking, she was going to be UP in weight but she is now down to 842g. How is that possible?

Documentation of Weight:
934 the morning OF Surgery..10-24-2011
874g 9:00Am, 10-25-2011
862g 6:30am , 10-26-2011
856g 6:00pm, 10-26-2011
852g 8:30AM, 10-27-2011
858g, 9:58pm, 10-27-2011

842g 10:00AM, 10-28-2011

Should I worry or is this normal?

Tracis
Let Sleeping Pigs Lie

Post   » Fri Oct 28, 2011 11:46 am


How does she look to you? Happy? Comfortable?

Eating is very good. Was she leaving a little pile for you as she was eating non-stop?

Sakura's weight has been up and down, too. I was expecting this to happen, and watched for the trend. When her weight would consistently decrease, without the upward bump, then I gave her Critical Care.

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camende
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Post   » Fri Oct 28, 2011 12:35 pm


She has been eating non-stop for the last hour. Pellets, Hay and then water. She's has "reminded" both Willow and Bella that SHE is in charge!.

Its pretty funny because Willow is 1585g and Norbie is 842 and she can push Willow around. Bella runs from the both of them.

I think she is ok. She just seems so small. She hasn't been this small since those first few months we had her.

But, she is eating and drinking and pooping and peeing. Maybe now that the girls are all together, Norbie will remember she needs to eat when I feed them or Willow (the fatty) will eat her share. :-)

She is running around. She certainly is acting like she is ok. Her incision looks perfect. I just want her to gain weight!

Tracis
Let Sleeping Pigs Lie

Post   » Fri Oct 28, 2011 3:37 pm


It is great to hear that she is so happy to be with her friends again!

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camende
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Post   » Fri Oct 28, 2011 4:43 pm


It is great. It probably was a mistake to separate them. At the time, I didn't want the other girls to do something to accicently hurt her but she seems so much more lively in the big cage with the others.

Live and learn, I guess. If there ever is a next time, I will know better.

Talishan
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Post   » Fri Oct 28, 2011 11:55 pm


Huge ditto to Tracis. I don't worry about weight bobbles. I'd worry only if it trends downward continually and consistently.

Also -- I don't think you made a mistake separating her for a while. If she'd gotten too active too quickly; if one of the others had decided to remove her stitches for her; if anything had happened where you'd had to have her incision repaired and then it got infected or *whatever*, then you'd be kicking yourself the other way.

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camende
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Post   » Sat Oct 29, 2011 12:16 am


I just don't understand why she is down so much.

She is down another 10g this evening. So, she has now lost 100g since MONDAY.

I know that part of that weight was the cyst. But she seems to be eating hay, pellets, veggies, and water. I watched her eat almost constantly for an hour so why is she still losing. I would be happy with just stabilizing.

It would be one thing if she was just laying there and not eating. But, she is moving around from the pellet bowls to the hayrak to the cozies and she is eating.

I have never had a piggie who has had surgery so I don't know what to expect and when the weight will stabilize. (sorry if I am harping on it, I am just worried)

Documentation of Weight:
934 the morning OF Surgery..10-24-2011

874g 9:00Am, 10-25-2011
862g 6:30am , 10-26-2011
856g 6:00pm, 10-26-2011
852g 8:30AM, 10-27-2011
858g, 9:58pm, 10-27-2011

842g 10:00AM, 10-28-2011
832g 11:00PM, 10-28-2011

Talishan
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Post   » Sat Oct 29, 2011 12:49 am


Do you have some Critical Care to supplement her with? If in doubt, do so.

I suspect she's burning up more energy being back with her friends, and her body needs that energy to continue to heal. Give her some supplemental Critical Care; it will probably make you both feel better.

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camende
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Post   » Sat Oct 29, 2011 11:51 am


She's up 22g this morning. Back to 854g. If she is that or more this evening I will feel like she is on her way to gaining more weight!

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