Moving to Germany

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Mr Demus 625
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Post   » Mon Oct 01, 2012 10:54 pm


WOOOO thanks for the update and glad everything worked out! Thank you again for helping her out.

PiggiesnPuppies

Post   » Tue Oct 02, 2012 6:00 am


Thanks for updating everyone feylin. I have internet I just have been trying to get all settled in and on a good sleep cycle. I got the piggies all settled in and they are very excited to be in Germany. They have been wheeking and popcorning. I thought I would just give you a run down of cost and process for future reference.
For a shipping container all you need is a dog crate. If you have two pigs that don't get along you can divide the crate (at least if you fly united you can). You will need to get health certificates for all of your pigs, up to 5 can go on one certificate. It cost me $200 for the exams and the certificate. It was 96.70 at my vet for the cert. and 35.95 for the special exam. You will need 2 different types of health certs. 1 that is bilingual for the Germans and one that is just english for the airline. You have to provide the bilingual one (which can be found here for Germany http://www.germany.info/contentblob/3444102/Daten/2094425/Pets_Document_Annex2.pdf)
Then you have to take that to you states USDA office to be endorsed. They expect you to know the requirements of the pet you are shipping, lucky for guinea pigs there are no requirements. They review the paper work to assure it is filled out properly and will stamp it. This costs $34 (most require an appointment to do this, it also may be a bit of a drive we drove 2 hours!) Then you are ready to fly!
It cost me 582.50 for their ticket after taxes and fees. If you are flying the same day as your pets make sure you give yourself PLENTY of time to drop them off. They can be dropped off between 2 and 4 hours before their flight. But I had a bit of trouble dropping them off more than 2 hours before. It took me an hour and a hald to get them checked in and ready to go. They will keep you pet in a climate controlled room up until they get loaded into a climate controlled area of the plane.
When we went to pick them up we had to go to the pet lounge, they gave us some papers to take to the vet. The vet's office charged 73 Euros(about $90) to review all papers and stamp them. We took those to customs, customs looked at them and stamped them, I paid nothing to customs because they had no regulations for guinea pigs. We walked back over to the pet lounge and paid 29 Euros (about $35) and then picked up my boys down stairs!!!
WE did have to register to get out of the parking lot of the pet lounge building. After everything I paid about $1,000 to ship them (thankfully the Army should refund that to us) so it wasn't cheap but it was pretty easy and worth it! So as long as you save some money your piggies should be able to go with you!
Thank you again to feylin for all of your help!!!!

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Feylin

Post   » Tue Oct 02, 2012 7:05 am


Yeah! Glad you wrote it all up- it will be so helpful for others.

I would just add that checking with the cargo office at the air port you fly out of a few days before can save a lot of hassle. People frequently dont know the answers to the questions you call to ask, and it's best to just go find out what the people who put your animals on the plane will want. It's not always the same as what's in the airline's rulebooks.

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Lynx
RESIST

Post   » Tue Oct 02, 2012 11:31 am


I added a link to your great summary on Tracis' links page, PiggiesnPuppies:

http://www.guinealynx.info/records/viewtopic.php?p=238#238

PiggiesnPuppies

Post   » Tue Oct 02, 2012 1:23 pm


I hope it helps someone.

PiggiesnPuppies

Post   » Sat Oct 06, 2012 5:37 pm


So we found a house today!! It is beautiful, except for the stuck in the '70's bathrooms, and HUGE There is a beautiful space for the piggy cages. and a big back yard that is big enough for a garden and for a nice sized guinea pig run. We will have to fence one side of the yard but that will be an easy weekend project. We are excited!

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Bytxlaura
Remembering Nemo

Post   » Sat Oct 06, 2012 9:07 pm


Yay!

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Lynx
RESIST

Post   » Sat Oct 06, 2012 10:58 pm


Congrats!

slavetofuzzy
4 the Good of all Pigs

Post   » Sun Feb 03, 2013 12:43 pm


I want to bump this up and ask a question. I've had a person contact the rescue to take their pigs because they are moving to Germany so I'm trying to get all the facts straight and cut and paste some information to show them how easy it is to fly them.

Did you, the original poster, fly them on your flight or was it on the Continental PetSafe flight?

PiggiesnPuppies

Post   » Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:27 pm


It was through the United/continental (they merged) petsafe program. I did not accompany them on the flight, they actually came in the day after us in a different city (we flew onto a military base), They were kenneled and cared for for one night in the states (I wasn't charged extra for that) and they cam in and were let out of their cage into a pen at the animal lounge at frankfurt airport until I picked them up, feel free to send me an email if you want, correspondance here is fine too.

PiggiesnPuppies

Post   » Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:28 pm


It was super easy. If they are flying into Ramstien I would be willing to help them!

slavetofuzzy
4 the Good of all Pigs

Post   » Tue Feb 05, 2013 5:56 pm


Thank you! I had to leave her a message telling her I had a way to get her pigs into Germany but she hasn't called me back. I hope that doesn't mean she's not serious about taking them and still wants to dump them.

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JudiL-MetroGPRescue
Poop Obsessed

Post   » Wed Feb 06, 2013 7:41 am


Yeah, people get their minds set on something....

I find it awesome that both Piggiesnpuppies and Feylin got their animals safely to Germany. Frankfurt's airport pet lounge sounds incredible. Too bad this isn't like this everywhere.

PiggiesnPuppies

Post   » Wed Feb 06, 2013 2:44 pm


What is kind of sad is most people think I am nuts for moving my guinea pigs to Germany! I think it is nuts not to move your pet with you!!!

STF if you do get in touch and she wants to fly them let me know, I can send you the links to the paper work she will need to have completed by a vet and signed by the USDA office.

slavetofuzzy
4 the Good of all Pigs

Post   » Wed Feb 06, 2013 4:33 pm


I'm really upset because when she first contacted us she was all "oh, I am so sad to leave them behind but Germany isn't pig friendly, you should see what we have to do to get our dogs here...blahblahblah" Now she won't return our calls.

Myndy

Post   » Wed Feb 06, 2013 8:19 pm


I think some people just value one pet over another slavetofuzzy.
Some people will go to greater lengths for one pet over another.
Its sad for me when I see that. I look at it like valuing one child over another.

PiggiesnPuppies

Post   » Thu Feb 07, 2013 10:51 am


If she is Military then she is full of crap about how hard it is to get a dog here, esp. after what I went through!!! I had to drive from San Antonio to Baltimore to catch our flight but our dogs had to be treated with prazaquantal (spl?) within 4 day before the flight and we had to get our heath certs done, so basically we had to drive to Baltimore and stay in town for 3 days prior to our flight to get the dogs and pigs health certs, I then had to drive 3 hours down to Richmond VA to get their health certs signed and stamped by the USDA (which took 15 mins) then drive 3 hours back to the hotel the daty before our flight out of the country!!!
She if full of it unfortunately. If you love your pets you will do whatever it takes!!! That is so sad she is probably going to dump the poor things on CL.

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