Very soft stools in rescue pig

slavetofuzzy
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Post   » Mon Feb 11, 2013 6:34 pm


Jonie came in to the rescue about a week and a half ago (Feb 1). She is a 5 year old that has been alone all of her life. When she arrived her front feet were caked with dried poop and her stools were soft but had some shape. If they were walked over/through they would smear on the fleece, that's how soft it was.

I thought that a good diet would improve it but now, almost 2 weeks later, it is getting worse. This afternoon it has turned to runny. Not liquidy, more like pudding. Her appetite is good and she is active.

Of course we are seeing the vet in the morning. I am seeking experiences of others so I can go in with a bit of knowledge. 8 years of pigs and I've not dealt with it this bad before. Always room to learn.

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Lynx
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Post   » Mon Feb 11, 2013 11:14 pm


I take it you've read over the diarrhea page for tips?

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slavetofuzzy
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Post   » Tue Feb 12, 2013 10:25 am


Yes, Lynx. Thanks. I was hoping for personal experiences-what worked, what didn't. She's at the vet right now. I had to drop off.

slavetofuzzy
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Post   » Tue Feb 12, 2013 9:10 pm


Jonie is on Bactrim now, with a recheck in 1 week. She also has two ovarian cysts. :( At 5 years old I don't think surgery is an option, especially with this other health issue going on. Hello sanctuary pig #3.

We will try acupuncture for the cysts once her soft stool is under control (or maybe before). It will be discussed at her follow up.

Bookfan
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Post   » Wed Feb 13, 2013 2:36 pm


If anyone figures out what to do about soft poops, I'd like to know. Lucy is still having problems with this and we've had 2 other pigs in the past with similar problems. But I suspect various things can cause it, so there probably isn't a one size fits all remedy.

slavetofuzzy
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Post   » Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:58 am


So far, after a week on Bactrim and Oxbow Digestive supplements, her poops have not been so puddly. They have shape again, sometimes mis-shapen but at least they are formed somewhat, and they don't smear as easily. I have not cut back on veggies either. She eats hay but is not a big pellet eater. I am going to give Critical Care to get her weight up but at follow up visit yesterday the vet said she can see improvement in overall body appearance. We will address cysts in another week or so.

bpatters
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Post   » Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:33 pm


Maybe a few days of flagyl? Shouldn't hurt, and might help.

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lisam

Post   » Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:22 pm


Yes, I always think of flagyl when a pig has soft poops/diarrhea.

As for the cysts, perhaps hormone injections.

slavetofuzzy
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Post   » Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:53 pm


I would have thought Flagyl first too. I will suggest it if this doesn't clear up at the end of Bactrim dose. She is doing better. I didn't go to her recheck the other day as I had surgery mysef that day. One of my fosters picked her up and took her for me.

So,only a few days of it?

I think we will discuss hormone injections for the cysts. As well as acupuncture.

Talishan
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Post   » Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:57 am


My $0.02: Flagyl and a probiotic.

**Please** tell Dr. A. that if she goes ahead and buys the hormone stuff she can use it on Willow (and possibly Heather) as well -- so she won't have to go to an expense "just" for Jonie.

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sef1268

Post   » Thu Feb 21, 2013 6:51 am


Also, wondering if it might be worth a shot to give Bio-Sponge a try? (in addition to Flagyl). I have an unopened tube of it that's going to expire next month, so I'll be ordering another one soon...happy to send this one your way. Just drop me an email.

Sending good thoughts your way.

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Lynx
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Post   » Thu Feb 21, 2013 8:58 am


I wonder what part of it expires with the Bio-Sponge?

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sef1268

Post   » Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:35 am


I can't really imagine, unless maybe it gets a little gloppy?

slavetofuzzy
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Post   » Thu Feb 21, 2013 7:32 pm


I'll have to ask about all of that next time I talk to her. The poops have gone back to softer again. I'll put a call in in the morning.

slavetofuzzy
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Post   » Tue Feb 26, 2013 11:02 am


Vet visit is over. We did acupuncture and are switching to Flagyl. I emailed you, sef.

slavetofuzzy
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Post   » Sun Mar 03, 2013 1:58 pm


Well I don't think the Flagyl is the answer. Her poop is now blobby and really soft. Not watery. Just big blobs now. Much messier than before. I also have bio sponge, thanks to sef.

Should I use bio sponge without Flagyl. I think I should discontinue the Flagyl given the change in poop. Or, do those who know, is this normal and will it resolve as it gets closer to end date of meds. I think I have 2.5 days left.

Also do I give probiotics with bio sponge?

bpatters
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Post   » Sun Mar 03, 2013 2:07 pm


Soft poop has cleared up immediately when mine have been put on Flagyl. I think I'd discontinue it too, given the worsening situation.

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Lynx
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Post   » Sun Mar 03, 2013 4:00 pm


From what I understand, the key ingredient with the biosponge is the bentonite clay which super absorbs water and likely the toxins along with it (this is from memory - I may be a little off). I am pretty sure you could either use just the bio sponge or use them concurrently - whatever you think will work best.

Talishan
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Post   » Mon Mar 04, 2013 5:43 am


Has she looked at it under the microscope? Is there any smell?

Culture and sensitivity, maybe?

I'd discontinue the Flagyl also. My experience has been the same as bpatters'.

As I understand it probiotics are not necessary with BioSponge but they can't hurt. I'd give them to her along with it.

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sef1268

Post   » Mon Mar 04, 2013 8:20 am


Ditto Lynx & Talishan -- probiotics not needed with Bio-Sponge, but probably couldn't hurt to use in addition to.

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