possible urine scald

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LS in AK
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Post   » Thu Jan 08, 2015 12:45 am


I would vote no to both mucus plugs and boar glue, and yes to possible UTI and/or reproductive problem.

If you are sure the discharge is coming from the vagina, then you need to get an ultrasound on her, to check her reproductive system. Could be a developing problem there.

But if it is a UTI and there is blood in the urine, and it is extra concentrated from being off her water a bit because she does not feel well, or sludge is present, and she is dribbling it, then that could explain the darkish smear.

When my little boy's cystitis started last summer, he was dribbling thick, reddish-brown urine at the start. A course of Bactrim seemed to clear that up, although I admit we never did find any infection.

If you can swing it, I would go for a vet visit at this point. Do a urinalysis and ultrasound and see what you find.

Or just keep a close eye on her for awhile, and gather more evidence.

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meganmarie

Post   » Thu Jan 08, 2015 12:57 am


The whole time (or for, at least the last hour) I've had her in a makeshift area with white towels, and she just pee'd. It is absolutely clear, She backed up, pee'd fine, with no coloration to her pee. I'm waiting to see if maybe it will dry another color, but she was fine. !!! Ugh. Frustrating...I'm trying to gather more evidence, but she is not making it easy! I would love to pop into the vet, but i only have 30 dollars to my name until the 16th. I can't even get carecredit. Dammit.

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meganmarie

Post   » Thu Jan 08, 2015 12:59 am


Also, when i cleaned her, i applied a tiny amount of desitin to the area where she was getting wet. Don't know if that was a good idea, but i just want to keep her dry...

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LS in AK
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Post   » Thu Jan 08, 2015 1:11 am


Personally, I would just keep close watch on her. Does not sound like an emergency at this point, and more evidence can help streamline a future vet visit down to just the diagnostics you may need, rather than poking and prodding and guessing at what is going on. That can get very expensive, very fast.

Desitin may be a good idea, so long as she does not mind it. I know the pigs are not supposed to ingest it, so be careful of that.

I never did bathe or apply desitin to my boar who was developing urine scald -- he just needed not to be laying on his wet bedding too long, and that solved the problem.

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meganmarie

Post   » Thu Jan 08, 2015 6:48 pm


She is dribbling pee. I've been watching her, and that's what shes doing. I think i thought it was gooey because there was such a build-up of pee, and it got cold on her skin, turning it onto a gross-feeling buildup of urine. She is dribbling pee, and i don't know why. She is starting to get bald where it's sitting(right above her vagina). It smells like pee, it looks like pee, it feels like pee. It's almost like her vagina is extra wet, with all of the pee dribbling out.

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PinkRufus
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Post   » Thu Jan 08, 2015 7:15 pm


I recommend getting a urine culture done. Maybe even an ultrasound and/or x-ray. She may have a UTI or something that is putting pressure on her bladder. Does she appear bloated at all?

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meganmarie

Post   » Thu Jan 08, 2015 7:36 pm


No she doesn't seem bloated. In fact, she seems perfectly fine, which is putting me off. I just called my wonderful, wonderful vet(he's an exotics) and He is only open for half-days on fridays. I told him my predicament(money, and also travel, because i work). His practice is about an hour, to an hour and a half away(towards Pittsburgh, its the only place to find exotic vets around here.). So, knowing that i couldn't come in, He sent me a prescription for Bactrim. I know its .5 twice a day for 2 weeks, but, besides that, i guess ill figure out the strength tomarrow when i go to pick it up. He told me to call him in about 5 days, if it's not improving, he'll fit me in, and we'll need to do xray's. Thank god for him! Anything i can do until then to keep her dry and comfortable?

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meganmarie

Post   » Thu Jan 08, 2015 7:53 pm


Anything specific i should know when battling a UTI? I know they are harder than most ailments to keep track of with Guinea pigs.

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Lynx
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Post   » Thu Jan 08, 2015 8:20 pm


Dribbling pea can be incontinence. If it is frequently/always wet down there, the possibility of infection is greatly increased.
gl/urine_scald.html
gl/uti.html

Sludge can contribute to the incontinence.
gl/stones.html
http://www.guinealynx.info/records/viewtopic.php?t=21

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meganmarie

Post   » Thu Jan 08, 2015 9:57 pm


I'm pretty sure i feed a low calcium diet. Usually they get a 'spring mix', 1 slice cucucmber(each), 1 cherry tomato(each), Tons of mini sweet peppers(red, orange, yellow), ocassionally carrots, ocassionally apples. I feed them oxbow adult cavy cuisine(about 1/2 cup, for 4 pigs, every day and a half), and KMS third cut timothy hay.


And what i'm curious about...On the UTI page, it talks about crying while going to the bathroom, or blood. I'm not having either of those...i'm just worried.

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Post   » Thu Jan 08, 2015 10:03 pm


Oxbow pellets have calcium carbonate as the calcium source, and there are many of us who have had pigs with sludge/stone problems when eating Oxbow. I'd recommend switching to KMS, as those are the only pellets I know of that use a different calcium source.

But in the interest of full disclosure, I have a stone pig that had eating nothing but KMS pellets for 2.5 of her 3 years when she developed two stones.

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meganmarie

Post   » Thu Jan 08, 2015 10:19 pm


Oh, i didn't know that...guess next time i buy hay, i'm going to be buying pellets, too...

It's scary to think i could have a stone pig. i'm worried...i hope she doesn't have a stone.

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Post   » Fri Jan 09, 2015 1:11 am


You have an absolutely awesome vet. Use the Bactrim in case of a UTI. Give her some probiotics too, just to be safe and help her tolerate it.

From what you describe, my money's on sludgy pee; it can be pretty goopy if it's bad enough, but better that than form into a stone.

Good luck to her and to you and please keep us posted.

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LS in AK
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Post   » Fri Jan 09, 2015 6:36 am


I like your vet, too. Reasonable in expectations and respectful of your needs. Need more like that.

If you are seeing only incontinence and some resultant urine scald in your Ginger-pig, then that is encouraging. Both conditions are very treatable. Don't worry that there is no blood or pain yet. You don't want to see any blood or pain. Not now, not ever, if you can help it. And, if you can make the needed dietary adjustments now, you may never see cystitis/stones develop. Hope that is how this turns out.

Get her on the Bactrim and ditch the Cavy Cuisine and I bet you will solve a large part of the problem.

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meganmarie

Post   » Fri Jan 09, 2015 9:24 am


She just started a new symptom:shaking. I'm worried it's from pain...

EDIT: and just as quickly as it started, it stopped. Maybe i'm worrying too much.

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Lynx
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Post   » Fri Jan 09, 2015 11:18 am


Do you have an accurate scale that weighs in grams? Could you weigh the amount of cucumber you give in a serving/day?

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jacqueline

Post   » Fri Jan 09, 2015 2:36 pm


Shivering can be a sign of pain, and it does come and go. Keep an eye on that, and her weight. You may need to give her something for pain for a few days.

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meganmarie

Post   » Fri Jan 09, 2015 3:20 pm


I have a scale that weighs in pounds/grams...Right now she is 2 lbs 4 oz.

But weighing for little things...i don't think i would trust it. I give maybe a 1/4''...or Less? But they usually get one everyday. I'd say i give about 1/4'' of about a 2 inch wide cucumber. Not enough to really get full on, but enough to get some extra water and for a treat.

Okay, Jacqueline, thank you. I didn't know that...now i feel terrible. I thought maybe she could be cold, so i put her in a cuddle cup, earlier. She probably didn't want moved at that moment, and here i was, moving her around. Crap.

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jacqueline

Post   » Fri Jan 09, 2015 4:09 pm


Take a deep breathe. You're doing a GREAT job. You're asking all the right questions. None of us knew everything in the beginning either. You live and learn alot with these piggies every day.

You may be able to see from all the different responses sometimes that we usually can't know for sure what's going on with them - they refuse to speak! So we guess - it's hit and miss. After awhile you'll know your piggie better and be able to better read her signals. Until then, you just do the best you can. . .

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meganmarie

Post   » Fri Jan 09, 2015 6:16 pm


Thank you...You guys have been really helpful and supportive. I'm a bundle of nerves, though, and apparently everyone can hear it! Gah.


Does anyone have any thoughts about Cranberry pills? I have them, because i have UTI problems, and take them regularly. It's from Spring valley(i believe, a Walmart Brand). It is (literallly just reading the bottle to you)...'Standardized Extract CRANBERRY 500mg'. OTHER INGREDIENT: GELATIN.

SUPPLEMENT FACTS:Cranberry Powder(500 mg)
(vaccinium macrocarpon)(fruit)
(standardized to contain 1.5% proanthocyanidins, 7.5 mg)


Also...I panicked, and i just took all of their pellets out of their cage. Will that be bad for them? I'm scared to take away something right now that is food because she needs all the padding she can get right now.

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