Zoe's Medical Thread

Talishan
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Post   » Thu Aug 11, 2016 3:27 pm


I think (I do not know, just think it logical) that inflamed bladder tissue from crystals, and blood in the urine, can cause a funky smell even without infection present. It won't be the same smell as infection, but I could imagine bloody urine on fleece funkifying.

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Delaine
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Post   » Thu Aug 11, 2016 7:55 pm


Love the word "funkifying". I do find if I can keep Zoe well hydrated and dilute her urine the smell is better.

I am trying to find new ways and products to wash the fleece to try and eliminate any residual odor without irritating their feet. bpatters starting me thinking maybe the fleece has something to do with the smell.

I change out the pads in their houses and cuddle cups two to three times a day depending on how much time they spend in them and the main fleece every day so it doesn't hang around very long in their cage. I use incontinent pads under the main fleece which gets throw out daily.

I use a natural unscented laundry soap so it might not be the best for the smell. I washed the last load with some vinegar and was wondering if oxi clean or borax in the wash would help. Any suggestions?

bpatters
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Post   » Fri Aug 12, 2016 12:39 am


OxiClean, or something like it will help.

I think natural soaps are just not strong enough to get the job done. I wash with strong detergent, hot water, and plenty of bleach. I use only fleece (no padding, as I use pellets underneath), and have no trouble with the fleece smelling at all.

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Delaine
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Post   » Fri Aug 12, 2016 4:22 pm


Thanks bpatter. I have Oxi Clean and will try it on my next piggy wash. The odor is better since adding vinegar to the wash cycle.

The other thing that crossed my mind is bladder tumor. There was a faint something in Zoe's bladder on her X-ray when her vet magnified it. I asked if it could be a tumor and she didn't think so. It was nothing obvious but it left me wondering.

I think there was a thread lately on a pig that had a bladder tumor but I can't seem to find it. Anyone recall this and know where to locate it? I have hunted a couple of times.

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Lynx
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Post   » Fri Aug 12, 2016 8:37 pm


You have a better memory than I do! I wish I could find it for you.

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Delaine
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Post   » Fri Aug 12, 2016 10:37 pm


The key word Lynx is "think". I am getting old and my memory isn't what it used to be so I could be wrong. If I remember correctly it was a thread on blood in urine, urinary tract infections that ended up being some kind of growth or tumor in the bladder.

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Delaine
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Post   » Fri Aug 12, 2016 11:36 pm


I found it Lynx. It is an old thread and I forgot I found it through google. So I guess my old mind got it half right. It was on Guinea Lynx at least.

http://www.guinealynx.info/records/viewtopic.php?t=209

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Lynx
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Post   » Sat Aug 13, 2016 6:51 am


No wonder you couldn't find it in this forum! (it's in the Records forum). Google does good things :-)

Bookfan
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Post   » Sun Aug 14, 2016 1:39 pm


Pepper had a bladder polyp removed in Jan. Don't know if that's a possibility.

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Delaine
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Post   » Sun Aug 14, 2016 8:49 pm


Bookfan, anything is possible. She is eating well and active but she is having some slight weight loss. She is almost 5 1/2 so not old but at an age where things can start to happen health wise. Still blood in her urine but it could be due to irritation from the calcium crystals. I am monitoring her for now because the last two urinalysis were normal and there is no indication of stones on the X-ray so not sure what else to do. She also has no pain or discomfort when urinating.

Does Pepper have a thread with information on her symptoms? I will go right now and see if I can find it. Thank you.

Talishan
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Post   » Sun Aug 14, 2016 10:38 pm


Piroxicam, a relative of meloxicam, has some anti-cancer properties. It might be worth asking your vet about.

http://www.guinealynx.info/forums/viewtopic.php?p=943847#943847

http://www.guinealynx.info/forums/viewtopic.php?p=951863#951863

Bookfan
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Post   » Mon Aug 15, 2016 11:37 am


Here is Pepper's thread in case you didn't find it:

http://www.guinealynx.info/forums/viewtopic.php?t=71264&highlight=pepper

It starts at 12/31/15.

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Delaine
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Post   » Mon Aug 15, 2016 8:08 pm


I did find it Bookfan but thanks for posting it. I read it over several times.

I would like to clarify some things. Is it correct that Pepper had a polyp and there was no cancer anywhere? How is Pepper doing now? Did she get over her bladder infection? She did well with her surgeries although it sounds like you have many stressful situations since.

I am asking these questions to see if any of it relates to Zoe. Zoe is doing well right now and she is her usual bossy self. I am wondering if the grass I give her is a problem. I cut back on it and just give a little for a treat and the calcium deposits are less and the odor is better. It is kind of weird because actually her sister Abbey has way more deposits than Zoe but it is Zoe that is always at the vet.

Last summer I noticed an odor in their cage but thought it was due to less air circulation in the downstairs TV room where they have gone for July and August for the past 5 years. This is the first year I have just left the air conditioner on so they can stay upstairs in the kitchen.

Has anyone else noticed slight weight loss during the summer months. Both my girls are down a little but both are eating well.

Talishan
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Post   » Tue Aug 16, 2016 3:16 pm


Yes.

Ours drop weight when the A/C first comes on. I think they dislike the sound and vibrations it produces until they get used to it.

Later in the summer they usually stabilize, though.

Bookfan
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Post   » Mon Aug 22, 2016 1:49 pm


Sorry to be slow to answer. I haven't been on for a week.

Pepper did have a polyp in her bladder which fell apart (vet said it was" friable") when it was removed, so we couldn't send it off for analysis.

She had a tumor in her uterus which we didn't send for analysis because we'd already spent so much money. So we don't know if there is any cancer.

She recovered well from her surgery, recovered from her recent bladder infection, and her bumblefoot just recently healed up after about 4 months. Knock on wood. She'll have to take Bactrim for the rest of her life because of the bumblefoot.

Let me know if you have another question.

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Lynx
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Post   » Mon Aug 22, 2016 2:05 pm


That is a great update! I hope the feet stay in good health! (I battled foot issues for perhaps a year with Nina)

Talishan
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Post   » Mon Aug 22, 2016 9:48 pm


That's awesome that she has recovered so well from *all* of that. Kudos to you for your good care.

Continued best to her and to you.

Bookfan
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Post   » Tue Aug 23, 2016 12:55 pm


Thanks. And as you know, the good care is mainly from daughter #1.

Lynx, we're checking the feet often. If it comes back, I'd like to nip it in the bud.

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Delaine
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Post   » Wed Aug 24, 2016 7:35 pm


Thanks for the information Bookfan. I am happy Pepper recovered and is doing well.

Zoe is doing well so for now so I will keep monitoring her for any changes in her health. I am hoping we can go a few months without a visit to the vet.

Talishan
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Post   » Thu Aug 25, 2016 12:03 am


Good vet-less vibes sent your way. ;-)

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