The Debates

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Lynx
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Post   » Tue Sep 27, 2016 8:57 am


Wow. Good bye trumped-up trickle down!

Some great tweets:

Sady Doyle@sadydoyle
"I see Hillary has come dressed in the blood of men who have underestimated her."

Jerry Springer ✔ @jerryspringer
"Hillary Clinton belongs in the White House. Donald Trump belongs on my show."

I love Hillary's smile.

JX4

Post   » Tue Sep 27, 2016 11:37 am


Trump inadvertently admitted that he doesn't pay income taxes.

He criticized her for preparing for the debate. I loved her response:

Yes, I did. You know what else I prepared for? Being President!

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Lynx
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Post   » Tue Sep 27, 2016 5:15 pm


I thought it was great, too! Probably the people who like Trump will still like trump. I suspect Hillary will have made some gains among true undecideds.

Bookfan
For the Love of Pigs

Post   » Wed Sep 28, 2016 12:22 pm


Hope so - I mean Hillary making some gains. Yes, she has a wonderful smile.

Interesting article about why some people support Trump:

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/05/donald-trump-supporters-dunning-kruger-effect-213904

"Trump himself has memorably declared: “I love the poorly educated.”

But as a psychologist who has studied human behavior—including voter behavior—for decades, I think there is something deeper going on. The problem isn’t that voters are too uninformed. It is that they don’t know just how uninformed they are."

TwoWhitePiggies

Post   » Wed Sep 28, 2016 3:13 pm


I think the bravest thing Hillary did during the debate is keep to talking in a calm but firm voice while Trump acted like...Trump.

TwoWhitePiggies

Post   » Wed Sep 28, 2016 3:14 pm


Bookfan--that article is rather chilling.

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TexCavy

Post   » Wed Sep 28, 2016 4:29 pm


How can Trump supporters be saying and thinking he won? I mean even with what you have said above, Bookfan, it just seems so impossible.

bpatters
And got the T-shirt

Post   » Wed Sep 28, 2016 5:18 pm


They're saying it because a number of groups were fiddling with the after-debate polls, and those polls were showing Trump had won. But they were the kind of polls where you can vote over and over, or program bots to vote over and over. None of the legitimate polls showed him winning. But you couldn't tell a Trump supporter that.

On a related note, and a miracle of sorts, the higher-ups at Fox News told their staff to stop reporting on those rigged polls -- that there were unscientific and unreliable, and had no place in responsible journalism. Is it actually possible that we're going to see Fox News slowly morph back into a news organization rather than the mouthpiece for the Republican Party?

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Lynx
RESIST

Post   » Wed Sep 28, 2016 7:39 pm


That is a fascinating article. I think I know my limitations. I also see how my physical skills can somewhat degrade with time. I sure know my limitations when it comes to medical knowledge about guinea pigs! What I repeat is common sense and information observed over time (mites and stones come to mind). I never have all the answers but can point out possibilities.

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snowflakey
E's Moriarity

Post   » Wed Sep 28, 2016 9:01 pm


Hi TWP! It took something as horrible as Donald Trump to bring you back to GL?

Bookfan
For the Love of Pigs

Post   » Thu Sep 29, 2016 11:19 am


Hi TWP and Tex! Nice to see ya.

As for the polls Trump is referring to, from NPR:

http://www.npr.org/2016/09/28/495805190/no-donald-trump-didnt-win-post-debate-polls

"Except that the post-debate "polls" the GOP nominee and campaign kept touting that he won on social media, at his rally in Florida and in press releases aren't polls at all. They're essentially unscientific Internet popularity contests, are not weighted as to what the electorate will actually look like, and have no predictive value. In fact, if you're worried about voter fraud, in many of these surveys people can vote multiple times and they can easily be rigged by Internet bots." As bpatters says above.

In addition, for GPIG and other sports fans, go to 538's homepage for sports predictions.

Not everyone would agree, especially those on the far right, but I see NPR as unbiased. Same for 538 which has posted today:

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/

Chance of winning:
Hillary 62.2
Trump 37.7
which is an improvement over last week. And if you want to geek out a bit, keep scrolling down on that page. Nice, informative graphics.

I've been hitting 538 first thing in the morning most mornings, depending on if I want to risk being terrified.

Bookfan
For the Love of Pigs

Post   » Thu Sep 29, 2016 11:40 am


"In addition, for GPIG and other sports fans, go to 538's homepage for sports predictions."

This sentence was supposed to go at the end. Sort of a non sequitur where it is now.

Bookfan
For the Love of Pigs

Post   » Thu Sep 29, 2016 12:40 pm


Someone had this printed out at work - "How to fact-check the Internet" from a veteran journalist & API staffer.

http://www.realsimple.com/work-life/technology/fact-check-internet

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snowflakey
E's Moriarity

Post   » Thu Sep 29, 2016 1:49 pm


Good link!

“Uncle Bill, hold on! DocInABox.com is not a reliable website, so maybe it’s not possible to contract Ebola from apples. Here’s some info from the Mayo Clinic. Check it out!”

But what if the apple BIT YOU???

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Lynx
RESIST

Post   » Thu Sep 29, 2016 4:19 pm


I like to go to gov sites for medical info if I can. I definitely consider what I feel is reputable.

And I am a very skeptical person. I saw an image online I figured was a fake (examined it in a paint program) and confirmed the fake at snopes (googled).

Bookfan
For the Love of Pigs

Post   » Fri Sep 30, 2016 1:16 pm


From the Washington Post:

"This New York Times ‘Hitler’ book review sure reads like a thinly veiled Trump comparison"

Read all about it:


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/09/28/th ... -comparison/

This takes you straight to the NYT review.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/28/books/hitler-ascent-volker-ullrich.html?_r=0

SardonicSmile

Post   » Fri Sep 30, 2016 2:17 pm


A 'fun' analysis by John Oliver (pre debate, but still worth watching)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=h1Lfd1aB9YI

JX4

Post   » Fri Sep 30, 2016 9:02 pm


I am looking forward to the VP debate on Tuesday. From what I've seen of Tim Kaine so far, I like him.

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snowflakey
E's Moriarity

Post   » Fri Sep 30, 2016 9:24 pm


It isn't going to be as dramatic as the one on Monday, that is for sure.

JX4

Post   » Fri Sep 30, 2016 10:49 pm


But I think we can still learn a lot from it.

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