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TexCavy

Post   » Mon Nov 14, 2016 6:25 am


Had another really bad breakdown last night.

I've been having them ever since Tuesday night. Yeah, I am not doing well with him surrounding himself with white supremacists.

Tuesday night I edited my facebook intro about me paragraph to say at the end that I died 11/8/2016 - the day America died.

C Cole-Chakotay

Post   » Mon Nov 14, 2016 7:13 am


TexCavy, I'm so sorry you are having a bad time. Like you, I don't like most of the people he is surrounding himself with.

Bookfan
For the Love of Pigs

Post   » Mon Nov 14, 2016 11:41 am


Per bats:

President-elect Donald Trump faces a growing backlash against his decision to name campaign chairman and former head of Breitbart News Stephen K. Bannon as chief strategist at the White House, a choice critics believe will empower white nationalists.

A chorus of advocacy groups, commentators and congressional Democrats denounced Bannon as a proponent of racist, anti-Semitic and misogynistic views as Trump began his first full week as president-elect.


“It is easy to see why the KKK views Trump as their champion when Trump appoints one of the foremost peddlers of White Supremacist themes and rhetoric as his top aide. Bannon was ‘the main driver behind Breitbart becoming a white ethno-nationalist propaganda mill,’ according to the Southern Poverty Law Center.”

From the Washington Post:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2016/11/14/ ... ationalists/

Bookfan
For the Love of Pigs

Post   » Mon Nov 14, 2016 11:57 am


Washington Post
https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/our-first-ame ... 2_story.html

It’s the meaning of 45 words found in the Bill of Rights. Here they are, the entire First Amendment: “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.”

Trump has made it clear that he has no intention of protecting or defending those rights. He has said repeatedly that he wants to change the laws that allow the press to publish news — however imperfectly — without fear of punishment.

“Believe the autocrat,” Masha Gessen, a Moscow-born journalist, wrote last week in the New York Review of Books. Americans should not depend on their institutions to protect them — they crumble fast: “The national press is likely to be among the first institutional victims of Trumpism.”

Bookfan
For the Love of Pigs

Post   » Mon Nov 14, 2016 12:03 pm


Don't be fooled.
Washington Post:

Paul Ryan’s false claim about why ‘Medicare is going broke’

It has been a bipartisan fallacy to claim that the old-age health program Medicare is going “broke,” which is incorrect for the reasons outlined below. But what was notable was he specifically blamed the Affordable Care Act for making Medicare go broke...

That’s doubly wrong. Let’s explain.

So it’s bad enough to claim that Medicare is going broke. Now let’s turn to Ryan’s claim that Medicare is going broke because of Obamacare. It’s just a very strange comment.

The Affordable Care Act actually strengthened the near-term outlook of the Part A trust fund.

It's pretty technical, but if you want to read more:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/11/ ... going-broke/

Bookfan
For the Love of Pigs

Post   » Tue Nov 15, 2016 11:19 am


Must watch:

Donald Trump's chief White House strategist hails from a website that traffics in incendiary headlines, many of them outwardly racist, misogynist, anti-Semitic -- and very, very pro-Trump.

http://money.cnn.com/2016/11/14/media/breitbart-incendiary-headlines/index.html

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Lynx
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Post   » Tue Nov 15, 2016 11:59 am



Bookfan
For the Love of Pigs

Post   » Tue Nov 15, 2016 12:15 pm


Wow. Well-reasoned, fascinating article.

bpatters - any comments? I don't mean this in a challenging way, just truly interested in your take on this guy's stance.

Just reading The Washington Post's front page today is scarifying.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/?reload=true

bpatters
And got the T-shirt

Post   » Tue Nov 15, 2016 1:36 pm


Ugh. I don't know.

As I said, I was so irritated with the anti-Obama faction screeching NMP at every turn that I swore I'd never do that. Trump's been elected, and I can, and will, oppose that, but until he's unelected/impeached/implodes/explodes/whatever, assuming he's ever inaugurated, he'll still be the president.

JoeCarl says, "The media already is conflating “Not My President” with the rigged-election, loony conspiracy theories that seized the right immediately before the election. This never will be corrected except by us and in a determined effort at that. "

I agree that the media is doing that. What I disagree with is that we can correct it. We couldn't stop the avalanche of racist, sexist, stupid bullshit put out by the right-wing machine before the election, and unless we revoke the right of free speech, we can't do it now. It's gonna sink us as a nation, I think, but I also think we're probably helpless against it. I've said for years that the 24-hour news cycle and it's endless propagation of extremist crap was going to be the death of us as a democracy, and I only feel that way more strongly since the election.

We can correct people on what we think NMP means, but my feeling is that we'd do better to pick some other slogan of opposition that pushes us forward on a more progressive front, and doesn't lump us with the anti-Obama, anti-Clinto hordes and their lack of legitimacy.

Just my $.02, of course.

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Lynx
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Post   » Tue Nov 15, 2016 1:54 pm


He surely is a threat to Democracy and a threat to the vulnerable among us.

bpatters
And got the T-shirt

Post   » Tue Nov 15, 2016 11:37 pm



Bookfan
For the Love of Pigs

Post   » Wed Nov 16, 2016 11:34 am


Yeah, sums things up well.

McCain to Trump: Don't try to reset relations with Putin:

http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/15/politics/john-mccain-donald-trump-vladimir-putin-reset/

I may not agree with McCain about much, but the man has backbone.

And speaking of backbone -
Despite Trump’s threat to cut federal funding, mayors pledge to protect undocumented immigrants:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/11/1 ... -immigrants/

And most important of all:
Carrie Fisher writes of Harrison Ford affair

http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/16/entertainment/carrie-fisher-harrison-ford/index.html

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Lynx
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Post   » Wed Nov 16, 2016 7:36 pm


bpatters, I have always liked Eugene Robinson. He is a smart guy with a heart.

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TexCavy

Post   » Thu Nov 17, 2016 12:04 am


I wonder if I am keeping my three remaining (non-relative) trump fanatics just to prove they will not apologize or admit any wrong when he proves who he is. TO me, the trade off for his other promises, and his behavior in general, should have been a deal breaker to anyone with true heart and compassion for fellow man.

However, this article today helped me to truly begin my healing.
Gotta love Uncle George.
Gaman, huh. Thanks for that bit of gold, Sulu.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/11/15/george-take ... t-trump.html

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Lynx
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Post   » Thu Nov 17, 2016 6:14 am


Wow, TexCavy, that is really powerful. I have to admit, I cried.

Before I read the article, I reread Eugene Robinson's article.

It takes a different look at what has happened. If you haven't read the article bpatters linked to, please do. And do read George Takei.

I wish President Trump failure: Eugene Robinson

WASHINGTON -- The people chose Hillary Clinton. But it's the electoral vote that counts, not the popular vote, so Donald Trump will be president. And no, I'm not over it.

No one should be over it. No one should pretend that Trump will be a normal president. No one should forget the bigotry and racism of his campaign, the naked appeals to white grievance, the stigmatizing of Mexicans and Muslims. No one should forget the jaw-dropping ignorance he showed about government policy both foreign and domestic. No one should forget the vile misogyny. No one should forget the mendacity, the vulgarity, the ugliness, the insanity. None of this must ever be normalized in our politics.

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TexCavy

Post   » Thu Nov 17, 2016 7:01 am


George helped me and I am here again. Not me again yet but fighting to be. Will read that one Lynx. Thanks.
Oh, btw I was one of the ones who asked on his posts how his family got through the internment camps. So glad he addressed it for us and he is so good with words.

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Lynx
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Post   » Thu Nov 17, 2016 8:41 am


On the other hand, here is where I was and it will be hard leaving it. You need to watch the video:

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/11/17/1600760/-Aftermat ... ion-of-Trump

Bookfan
For the Love of Pigs

Post   » Thu Nov 17, 2016 1:32 pm


Food for thought from the George Takei article. I'm especially thinking about my friend at work who I'm pretty sure voted for Trump & trying to deal with conflicting emotions. I do think those who voted for Trump are responsible for whatever comes next. No matter what their reasons were.

Tess Rafferty is where I'm at right now. I was out on the floor at the library last night & there were a black man & a white man looking at dvds. I asked the black guy how he was & he said just fine - friendly exchange, trying to be welcoming. And I'm eying the white guy wondering who he voted for - white profiling?. And thinking of kicking his teeth out if he so much as looks funny at the black guy. Obviously I wouldn't really do this, but I'm that angry.

Erinspigs

Post   » Fri Nov 18, 2016 12:38 am


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Bookfan
For the Love of Pigs

Post   » Fri Nov 18, 2016 10:03 am


Some advice on how to deal with a Trump presidency from a politically expedient viewpoint:


The Risks of Reflexive Opposition to Trump

Democrats may be more effective if they avoid opposing his presidency at every turn.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/11/donald-trump-democrats-presidency/507968/

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