The American Press and Trump

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Lynx
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Post   » Sat Dec 31, 2016 7:54 pm


This is a dark time for the press. This thoughtful, two part article covers the threats and how journalists might deal with them. Good journalists must avoid being caught up in the cloud of confusion that is likely to be the Trump administration.

"How bad is it? Bad. I will explain why. Any bright signs? A few. This is part one. Part two is about what can be done."

Winter is coming: prospects for the American press under Trump, Part I:
http://pressthink.org/2016/12/winter-coming-prospects-american-press-trump/

" A Trump presidency is likely to be constructed on a propaganda model in which fomenting confusion is not a drag on the Administration’s agenda but a sign that it’s working. Access to such a machinery could wind up enlisting the press in a misinformation campaign."

Prospects for the American press under Trump, part II:
http://pressthink.org/2016/12/winter-coming-prospects-american-press-trump/

Confidence in journalism is low. We will depend on journalists like David Fahrenthold to track down the facts and light the way.

This article, by Jay Rosen, is a gem. It should give us all pause.
p.s. find one or more newspapers whose journalism you value and support them!

And another great article/speech by Jay Rosen:
http://pressthink.org/2012/06/covering-wicked-problems/

Bookfan
For the Love of Pigs

Post   » Sun Jan 01, 2017 12:19 pm


Funny you should bring this up. I was just reading (part of):

"Journalists Should Be Terrified

A free press has rarely been so necessary. And we have every reason to believe that Trump will try to bring it to heel."

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/201 ... e_press.html

.....
which I linked to from:

"What Early Nazi History Can Teach Us About Treating Trump Supporters

And pointing out similarities between Trumpism and early Nazism is not out of bounds on a Godwin Point of Order. Trumpism has:

Called for the registry of Muslims and possible Internment.
Called for mass deportation of a resident minority.
Stated an extremely hostile position towards freedom of the press.
Called for violence.
Attempted a coup against a duly elected government in one of our states.
Called for jailing his political opponents (since rescinded).

“So, in the last year, Trump has flirted with ... totalitarianism, yet the advice from many is to “give him a chance” ...”


http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/1/1/1614781/-What-Early ... p-Supporters

I've heard something along the lines of “give him a chance” from two coworkers who voted for Hilary. Scary.

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Lynx
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Post   » Sun Jan 01, 2017 1:15 pm


He has blown the "give him a chance" thing.

We have to fight. Now.

C Cole-Chakotay

Post   » Sun Jan 01, 2017 6:43 pm


I agree with you, Lynx. I'm watching Trump like a hawk!

Bookfan
For the Love of Pigs

Post   » Fri Jan 06, 2017 12:13 pm


Just read your links, Lynx. Terrific.

bpatters
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Post   » Fri Jan 06, 2017 12:19 pm


I hope all of you have a list of your local and national representatives by the phone, and a list of all the bills/appointments/whatever that you want to protest, and are calling those legislators about every issue. It's that kind of action that turned around the gutting of the House ethics committee.

I've seen several posts by former staffers of senators and representatives that say that one call is worth 10 letters and 100 emails, so CALL.

We can commiserate with each other until the cows come home, but if we don't get up and DO something, we'll all go down the tubes together.

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Lynx
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Post   » Fri Jan 06, 2017 7:59 pm


And stopping by their local office to complain clearly, without calling names, is important too. Rachel Maddow did a recent show on how a few people can make a huge difference. Referenced the guide to resisting the trump agenda posted earlier: https://www.indivisibleguide.com/

Rachel:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTGDrpr4jOA

Totally worth watching. We can make a difference!

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Lynx
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Post   » Sat Jan 07, 2017 11:58 am


I have not yet watched it, but have had highly recommended this PBS Frontline documentary on Trump:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/film/president-trump/

Highlights of some of the show can be found here:

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/1/7/1617979/-PBS-S-FRONTLINE-DOCUMENTS-THE-REAL-DONALD-J-TRUMP

Bookfan
For the Love of Pigs

Post   » Thu Jan 12, 2017 11:01 am


" It's that kind of action that turned around the gutting of the House ethics committee.

I've seen several posts by former staffers of senators and representatives that say that one call is worth 10 letters and 100 emails, so CALL."

Yeah. I never understood that calls could have such an impact.

Can you give a link to finding contact info for local & fed congresspeople? And where do you find info on proposed legislation? Yeah, I should probably just google.

This should be posted on the "Contact" sticky if anyone wants to provide the links.

Didn't watch the PBS show. Too depressing right now.

bpatters
And got the T-shirt

Post   » Thu Jan 12, 2017 11:13 am


https://www.usa.gov/elected-officials

Google "who are my state legislators {your state name}" without the quotes to find your state folks,

Bookfan
For the Love of Pigs

Post   » Thu Jan 12, 2017 11:18 am


Thanks, bpatters. We have an ice storm coming & I need to hurry up & get to the grocery store.

Bookfan
For the Love of Pigs

Post   » Thu Jan 12, 2017 11:49 am


Just called both of my senators about:

The Senate voted 51 to 48 early Thursday to approve a budget resolution instructing House and Senate committees to begin work on legislation to repeal major portions of the Affordable Care Act. The House is expected to take up the legislation Friday.

My dem. senator voted against it as I expected; the rep. senator is far right, & I don't expect him to waver - this is a red state - but I weighed in anyway. Talked to human beings both times with no wait.

Bookfan
For the Love of Pigs

Post   » Tue Jan 17, 2017 12:00 pm


Looking for a list of bills - found these:

https://www.senate.gov/legislative/active_leg_page.htm

https://www.congress.gov/

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/

bpatters - are these "list of all the bills/appointments/whatever that you want to protest" you referred to?

bpatters
And got the T-shirt

Post   » Tue Jan 17, 2017 1:21 pm


Jeez, Bookfan, I don't remember.

Right now, the Texas legislature is in session. It only meets for a few months every two years, and there are a TON of disastrous bills. That's probably what I was referring to.

The whole thing seems to be more effective if you can pull out things to be done THAT day or the next. Dozens of people have told me that they go through my emails while they're drinking their morning coffee and make their calls for the day.

I do include information like those you listed, but generally in a reference section, like, here's where you can find [whatever].

There are specific times when protest is most effective -- when the bill is first introduced and a group is working on the wording, when there are joint committees from the house and senate working on it, and when it's coming up for floor debate and vote. The state legislatures should have calendars published with the schedules of bills.

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Lynx
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Post   » Tue Jan 17, 2017 3:05 pm


Man, it is so wrong to repeal the ACA! People are going to die if there is no affordable health insurance!

Bookfan
For the Love of Pigs

Post   » Tue Jan 17, 2017 3:42 pm


And to think some Republicans were spreading false stories about "death panels" associated with the ACA.

GPIG

Post   » Fri Apr 21, 2017 8:06 pm


"United Airlines Is More Popular Than President Trump." I thought that was funny.

I haven't been watching/reading much news or current events lately. Lynx turned me on to The Daily Kos a bit. I like that one, they don't pretend to be something they aren't. It seems fact driven even if they omit some stuff, not hypocritical.

In any event, for what it's worth, I've been trying to find Trump's approval rating, a real approval rating of select demographics. I can't find any that aren't contradicted and I just don't see anything that seems accurate or should I say not twisted to support ideology of one kind or another.

GPIG

Post   » Fri Apr 21, 2017 8:33 pm


Sorry was booted out for time limit but wanted to add this;

I'm really not interested in his approval rating so much but rather the way news is being reported. The approval ratings are just one news story I'm thinking of because that should be a straightforward. Unfortunately, nothing has been straightforward for some time. I think we are in dark times for world event reporting.

bpatters
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Post   » Fri Apr 21, 2017 8:52 pm


GPIG, take a look at Media Bias / Fact Check. It will tell you which way different news sources lean, if at all (and there are some that don't), which ones report the facts but slant the telling of the story to suit their purpose, and those that just outright lie.

It may or may not help you find the approval ratings info you're looking for, but it's a good way to evaluate a source.

GPIG

Post   » Sat Apr 22, 2017 4:55 pm


Excellent excellent bpatters, just what I've been looking for. Thank you, saves me some time

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