This past Thursday (3/1), I heard her squawk again and strain when "assuming the poop position" so I brought her in again and she saw he regular vet. Again she had normal gut sounds and the vet said she was a little tender on palpation but she also had a full bladder and refused to pee for us. Her butt seemed a little bit messier this time. I had noticed that again, her poops were softer, had a little smudging, and a little odor. They weren't linked this time but a few were long. I thought to mention that I have caught her carrying a piece of paper litter around in her mouth so couldn't rule out that she was chewing it (her bedroom is fleece but the kitchen/potty is Clean and Cozy) and also, I just started giving her bluegrass from KMS about three weeks ago (I am violently allergic to timothy so she eats meadow and bluegrass- she hates orchard).
So the outcome from the second vet appointment was that they decided to do a fecal, said to stop feeding the bluegrass in case it was causing the gassiness, and prescribed the metro 100mgml 0.2cc twice daily. I got the call that the fecal was normal yesterday, but to start the metro anyay. I ordered Bene Bac which should be here today. The vet said to give the metro for 10 days and we'll see how her tummy is, then decide if we can slowly re-introduce the bluegrass since our hay options are so limited. The vet gave more fluids since it seemed to help move things along last week. On Thursday night, I could tell she was a little grouchy but I heard her belly rumble and then I could tell she was definitely passing some gas and she has been cheerful and had a good appetite and normal energy level since then. I would love anyone's thoughts, feedback, advice. Does this sound dietary, like she is intolerant of the bluegrass? Should I start the Bene Bac when it gets here today? What should I be watching out for with the metro? Advice for a gassy pig, and is this as catastrophic a condition as stones (I still have trauma from how hard that was to watch my girl who had the stones go through)?
Thank you in advance!
It has a bad taste and can cause inappetence. We usually recommend rinsing the patients mouth about 30 minutes post oral administration to help alleviate the bitterness. I have heard of it causing GI upset and nausea in people. In hospitalized equine patients we would actually administer it via the rectum.
I think the elimination diet will probably tell you the most as it has been a recent change in diet and GI activity. Did the vet tell you to discontinue any produce or replace the bluegrass with another grass hay?
I’m due to give her her second dose now so I will be sure to give her a little piece of strawberry to get the taste out of her mouth. Thanks for letting me know. It doesn’t smell very nice :( Would you advise starting the Bene Bac now?
I was unclear on my former kitchen/potty set-up. I had a tray with a potty pad underneath and Clean and Cozy on top. Well she dug the pad out on Friday and ate a few inches, so I stopped using the pads. Then Saturday, I caught her chewing pieces of the Clean and Cozy, so I threw that away too and bought the Eco Straw because that is apparently safe to eat. I have seen her eat a few pellets of that and tried to discourage her by putting f her actual food pellets around the tray instead.
- And got the T-shirt
And yes, she could still be eating the poops.
Have you tried putting her on a vibrator of some sort? That will sometimes shake things up internally and produce some poops.
Can you switch her to fleece, at least temporarily? Eco straw may be edible, but it's probably not good for her.
I do have a question concerning her pee. I have been feeding her a little bit of dandelion greens, some red leaf lettuce, tomatoes, and small amounts of whatever fruits she wants to keep her appetite engaged and I have noticed on and off her pee has been a very brilliant bright orange this week. Not red, not pink, but very orange. I haven’t let it sit around long enough to see if it fades to normal yellow (I removed her litter pan and she’s on full fleece now). I read that dandelion could do it so I stopped the dandelion 2 days ago. Could this be the Reglan or residual dandelion or the lettuce? I have never seen orange pee and she’s had red leaf lettuce and dandelion before. Thanks!
Do weigh daily right now (if you aren't already) to make sure she is still getting enough food (i.e. don't stop the CC too soon if she still needs it).
I did leave a message for the vet and her tech called back letting me know that she felt that it was probably related to diet (the dandelions and maybe the red leaf lettuce) and to keep an eye on it. I am wondering if she is a little dehydrated so am watering down her lettuce and also making her CC more watery. I just got confused since she has eaten every one of these foods before and I hadn’t noticed orange pee... however she also was using paper litter in a potty pan and I removed that due to her nibbling it last week so it’s hard to tell. I will try to get a picture of the pee and send it if she pees on a light colored fleece.
I’m weighing her twice a day so I’ll adjust her CC if she starts to change weight. She has varied by up to 25g at a time throughout this whole thing. I am picking up a refill of Reglan tomorrow in case we need more over the weekend since I’m almost out.
I was also wondering your thoughts on her weight, if I can run a series for the last few days by you:
3/13pm 1009g after 20cc watery CC (forgot to weigh before feeding)
3/14pm 1000g (after a bunch of lettuce- forgot to weigh before feeding salad)
3/16am 948g 1pm 941g
Haven’t weighed tonight yet. I’m bumping CC back up. She is eating a decent amount of Timothy, eating salad, picking at pellets but not doing the usual feeding frenzy she used to. Her usual weight before all this was about 975-980g. The other thing is that I feel that if I don’t CC her, she maybe won’t eat enough to maintain. It’s hard to tell but I’m afraid to cut back too soon. She’s a very robust girl though. Thanks!