A Fraud and a Charlatan
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Lynx
- RESIST
From what I understand, automation means there are not going to be a lot of steel jobs, no matter what you do. Instead, the tariffs are going to hurt a myriad of companies that depend on steel. It will cost the consumer a lot. From what I have read, it is unlikely there were be much new investment in steel if it is solely driven by tariffs - as they can change and are not a reliable indicator of what the future holds.
Yes, I don't know much about Trump's plan, good or bad. If it is in keeping with his typical pulled out of his -$$ hair-brain ideas it probably doesn't have much logical thought behind it. However, my comment is more about trying to create a conversation about something beneficial to America, decent paying manufacturing jobs, if possible. I don't know enough about economics one way or the other, but I think we need something.
I don't trust any of those other names either. I find it troubling when politicians say something is good or bad these days. I question their motives, are they concerned about taking care of fat cat donors or is there some genuine concern about constituents? Also troubling, anything Trump says is going to be hammered by media, politicians, citizens, and justifiably so.
His own words and actions have caused him to be seen as a joke, but even a broken clock is right twice a day. So the concern to me is just because he says something, doesn't always mean he is wrong. I'm not defending him. I fear we may lose some opportunities because, or in spite of him. We're in a terrible jam.
I don't trust any of those other names either. I find it troubling when politicians say something is good or bad these days. I question their motives, are they concerned about taking care of fat cat donors or is there some genuine concern about constituents? Also troubling, anything Trump says is going to be hammered by media, politicians, citizens, and justifiably so.
His own words and actions have caused him to be seen as a joke, but even a broken clock is right twice a day. So the concern to me is just because he says something, doesn't always mean he is wrong. I'm not defending him. I fear we may lose some opportunities because, or in spite of him. We're in a terrible jam.
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bpatters
- And got the T-shirt
EP, here's an interest article on manufacturing/tariffs/jobs, etc.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/13/opinion/trump-trade-china.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/13/opinion/trump-trade-china.html
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Bookfan
- For the Love of Pigs
"That's why it's EXTREMELY important to stay informed, and to SHARE information with others."
I like what this guy has to say. I don't know anything about him except that the blue check by his name means he is who he says he is. Waiting for the end is nerve racking/hair raising .
Click on it.
I like what this guy has to say. I don't know anything about him except that the blue check by his name means he is who he says he is. Waiting for the end is nerve racking/hair raising .
Click on it.
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bpatters
- And got the T-shirt
Here's another good article on the steel tariffs, and the fact that while steel producers may be getting a break, there are far fewer of them than there are of people who work with steel, and they're hurting.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/phillevy/2018/03/30/trump-steel ... a6883f67975b
https://www.forbes.com/sites/phillevy/2018/03/30/trump-steel ... a6883f67975b
These articles are so difficult to read into. When they say we will have plenty of steel but no one to fabricate it, I don't know about that. We haven't had an abundance of tool and dye makers in America for a long time, and that is who really fabricates "high precision components"
When they say with tolerances of 1/5000 of an inch I know that sounds like it's high precision but it isn't. The high precision steel work is for the aerospace industry not the automotive industry. I know there is some but nothing close to the aerospace industry where they work with tolerances of 1/10000 of a milometer - and they use the metric system not inches.
I know about this because all of my uncles had been tool and dye makers and were losing their jobs and homes before the old man came home, took over the mechanic shop, towing business and brought them all back into it So I do know about fabricating and that article sounds like it has an objective to me.
When they say with tolerances of 1/5000 of an inch I know that sounds like it's high precision but it isn't. The high precision steel work is for the aerospace industry not the automotive industry. I know there is some but nothing close to the aerospace industry where they work with tolerances of 1/10000 of a milometer - and they use the metric system not inches.
I know about this because all of my uncles had been tool and dye makers and were losing their jobs and homes before the old man came home, took over the mechanic shop, towing business and brought them all back into it So I do know about fabricating and that article sounds like it has an objective to me.
This is a bit off track with the thread thus far, but I was curious about this and found a thread that fits so well with how Trump behaves:
https://www.bridgestorecovery.com/narcissistic-personality-d ... tal-illness/
Unfortunately, he is probably too old for therapy at this point.
https://www.bridgestorecovery.com/narcissistic-personality-d ... tal-illness/
Unfortunately, he is probably too old for therapy at this point.
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Lynx
- RESIST
I looked over the titles of some of the topics and chose this one.
David Rothkopf presents a concise collection of Trump corruption.
Trump's lies and corruption disgrace presidential legacies of Lincoln and Washington
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2018/12/27/trump-corr ... /2376588002/
In summary:
David Rothkopf presents a concise collection of Trump corruption.
Trump's lies and corruption disgrace presidential legacies of Lincoln and Washington
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2018/12/27/trump-corr ... /2376588002/
In summary:
It is easy to grow numb to this. It is possible to become distracted by rage. But remembering what is at stake, we must focus on undoing this great wrong that took place in 2016 and seeking justice for the crimes that contributed to that and have unfolded since.
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sef1268
- Supporter in 2019
I'm having a little trouble loading the article, but the bits and pieces I've read so far seem like a very good summary of what has been going on. It really does boggle the mind, especially when you consider that if Barack Obama had been accused of committing even ONE of those egregious acts (much less if there had been clear evidence to support it), cries of Impeachment would have been on the lips of every "family values" Republican and his presidency would have been finished.
I can only hope that Trump and all of his minions get precisely what they deserve.
I can only hope that Trump and all of his minions get precisely what they deserve.
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TeddyGram
- Supporter
Even if one stays away from op-ed articles and reads from journalists presenting reality in “middle of the road” publications, the behavior described is unacceptable, an embarrassment to our country, and is building a bench of federal judges whose rulings will take liberties away from our children and grandchildren.
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Lynx
- RESIST
sef, I encourage you (if you are using chrome) to add this extension:
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/ghostery-%E2%80%93 ... eaniij?hl=en
It is Ghostery. You can disable settings selectively for individual sites in case the site is not functioning correctly (blocks calls to non-site locations).
Ghostery is hands down the best ad and tracking blocker I know of.
And ditto to all your comments!!
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/ghostery-%E2%80%93 ... eaniij?hl=en
It is Ghostery. You can disable settings selectively for individual sites in case the site is not functioning correctly (blocks calls to non-site locations).
Ghostery is hands down the best ad and tracking blocker I know of.
And ditto to all your comments!!
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Bookfan
- For the Love of Pigs
Yeah, ditto everything. It's interesting to see all the crimes listed together.
This is an interesting link:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2014/10/21/le ... 0b9a7433f351
"Pew has basically taken the average viewer/consumer of all of these media outlets and plotted them on a continuum, trying to ascertain which outlets are favored by which side of the political spectrum." It helps identify "middle of the road" journalism. It's not going to change what I watch/read, but it's interesting to look at the big picture.
This is an interesting link:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2014/10/21/le ... 0b9a7433f351
"Pew has basically taken the average viewer/consumer of all of these media outlets and plotted them on a continuum, trying to ascertain which outlets are favored by which side of the political spectrum." It helps identify "middle of the road" journalism. It's not going to change what I watch/read, but it's interesting to look at the big picture.