Belle's eye >> red growth thing

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Sshadowsmom

Post   » Thu Apr 08, 2004 9:31 pm


Good luck to her. I know how I fussed over Christie when her eye looked liked that. And while she was getting her eye flushed out she managed to wee twice - just that quick.

I have been keeping my eyes on her since then and after the initial resolution of the problem we have not had a recurrence.

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swannie
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Post   » Fri Apr 09, 2004 11:42 am


The staining showed no corneal damage. The local vet now thinks it's a prolapsed tear gland (?), but he's never seen that before in guinea pigs. He says in dogs (cherry eye) treatment often involves surgical removal of the offending gland. He pushed back the her other top eyelid and showed me the same structure (it's a discrete mass, not encapsulated in the lid) in that eye--but it slid back underneath properly when he released the lid.

He gave me a new opthalmic AB ointment (chloramphenicol this time, and without the steroids) to try just in case it helps.

Has anyone ever heard of this? I am waiting on a call back from Dr. Schott, the more pig-savvy vet. Belle is still eating, peeing, pooping normally.

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Lynx
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Post   » Fri Apr 09, 2004 12:59 pm


Never heard of it. I take it, he did not see any foreign body in there that would have caused it to push out.

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swannie
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Post   » Fri Apr 09, 2004 1:06 pm


Well, he did retract the lid a bit (and there was nothing visible when he did), but I asked about using a topical anasthetic to numb the eye and using tools to properly lift the lid, and he said he wouldn't do that unless the pig was put under because they are so squirmy and there would be a great risk of the pig moving, resulting in eye injury.

Hopefully I'll hear from the other vet soon. I've also emailed Josephine, in case she doesn't see the thread.

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JoePig

Post   » Fri Apr 09, 2004 3:36 pm


Another option may be to ask for a referrel to a veterinary ophthalmologist.

My pig, Benji, had something similar looking as your poor Belle. It came on just as suddenly, but thankfully not as severe. The eyes were stained and no scratches were found; no foreign objects either. The vet (normal vet, not a specialist) gave me some ointment with steroids to reduce the swelling. It did take 4-5 days before I noted improvement.

I believe I have figured out the problem: Benji is allergic to the new brand of bedding I had put in his cage. The bedding was removed and the cage washed down. The problem has not re-occured - so far.

I hope this information is helpful to you! Your poor little pig! I hope it feels better soon!

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swannie
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Post   » Fri Apr 09, 2004 4:28 pm


She's bedded on towels, and has been for some time now. No very recent changes in the hay, either.

A consult with a veterinary ophthamalogist will be the next step if the other vet has nothing else to offer.

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swannie
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Post   » Sat Apr 10, 2004 11:28 am


Never got a call back from vet #2, but I did get a call back from Dr. Thomson at The Animal Medical Center in Manhattan who said guinea pigs have a third eyelid that can prolapse, but not a tear duct (that she knew of, anyway). She said I should make an appt. to bring her in and see one of the exotics specialists during the hours when one of the ophthalmologists is in, so they can consult if need be.

The only glitch is that they're waaaay on the east side in Manhattan, and since the eye drs. are generally only there on weekdays, it would probably mean taking Belle in with me to work and then getting a taxi to the animal hospital from my office. And probably taking the afternoon off work to do it. Thank goodness next week is a slow week! I'll have to wait until Monday to call so I know what my work schedule is like and get the hours off approved, if need be. I might also call around to the other, like, 4 board-certified veterinary ophthalmologists in the state of NJ to see if they a) have lots of exotics experience or b) work closely with a regular vet who does. But the AMC is meant to be an excellent facility, so I am happy to get Belle there despite the fact that it's not so convenient.


I think her eye looks a bit better today--will try and post a pic shortly.

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Lynx
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Post   » Sat Apr 10, 2004 12:15 pm


Getting a positive diagnosis of what's going on and what should be done will help greatly. I need to do an eye page -- hopefully your experiences will help others.

What ever detail you can add on the board will be appreciated -- and see if they can tell you what causes this.

Josephine
Little Jo Wheek

Post   » Sat Apr 10, 2004 10:27 pm


http://www.guinealynx.info/forums/viewtopic.php?t=10530&highlight=cherry+eye

This is the discussion I was referring to in my email, Swannie.

The reference stuff was mostly on the last page.

"....This information can be confirmed by using A Colour Atlas of Anatomy of Small Laboratory Animals, Volume 1: Rabbit and Guinea Pig by Popesko, Rajtova, and Hurak (Saunders is the publisher)....."

gpperson
Carpe Cavies

Post   » Mon Apr 12, 2004 10:45 am


AMC is a very good hospital. Very busy but careful with gp's.
Dr. Quesenbury is on staff there. Good luck with Belle!

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swannie
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Post   » Mon Apr 12, 2004 2:18 pm


AMC is good, and expensive! $136 for the office visit and $106 for rechecks. Eeek! But I know they are the best. I made an appt. for her to see Dr. Pilny on Thursday. If her eye miraculously goes back to normal by Wednesday, then cool. If not, I will report back after the vet visit.

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snowflakey
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Post   » Mon Apr 12, 2004 2:23 pm


Have Belle's eyes improved at all?

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swannie
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Post   » Mon Apr 12, 2004 2:30 pm


The red bulging thing (whatever it may be) didn't seem as pronounced to me yesterday or this morning, but it's still definitely there. I'll try and get some pics when I get home from work tonight.

GP Lover
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Post   » Tue Apr 20, 2004 8:07 am


Swannie, how is Belle? Did you take her to see that vet in NYC?

GP Lover
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Post   » Wed Apr 21, 2004 2:45 pm


TTT

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swannie
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Post   » Wed Apr 21, 2004 3:02 pm


Whoops! Didn't see this one earlier. Yes, schlepped her to AMCNY and the vet and eye dr. both said it was a prolapsed gland, and while there's no way to pinpoint a cause, that it should resolve itself on its own. And indeed, $150+ later (including cab fare), that's just what's happening! It's almost back to normal. I'll try to post pics later, but invariably, the camera batteries will be dead (I always forget to plug them in to recharge).

GP Lover
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Post   » Wed Apr 21, 2004 3:14 pm


Well, at least she's alright! Glad to hear it. O:)

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Lynx
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Post   » Wed Apr 21, 2004 8:26 pm


The important thing is she's getting better. And hopefully the next person this happens to (it sounds unusual), we will have our very own expert to show them the light.

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swannie
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Post   » Thu Apr 22, 2004 9:00 am


I posted these last night, but they must have been eaten up by the server stuff:

Belle's eye last night...

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vs. two weeks ago:

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Lynx
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Post   » Thu Apr 22, 2004 9:10 am


Thanks for reposting. I remember seeing those pics and am peeved they dropped so many posts. Grrrrr.

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