Help! I have to quarantine my pigs in the UK for 6 months!!!

petit-filous

Post   » Wed Apr 06, 2005 5:13 am


It's official, the UK Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs (DEFRA) has turned down my request to quarantine my 5 piggies in Bahrain before I move to London at the end of the year.

I have to quarantine them in the UK for SIX LONG MONTHS. That's a huge chunk of their lives!

UK Guinea Lynxers, I BEG you to ask around (your vets, your local guinea pig rescues, fellow animal lovers, etc.) for quarantine recommendations. They don't have to be quarantine kennels per se--for example some animal sanctuaries are allowed by DEFRA to quarantine animals.

I have consulted DEFRA's list of recommended quarantines (yes, all 3 of them) and they are all businesses, totally commercialised and charging absolutely crazy prices (5,000-7,000 Pounds Sterling!!!). I'd rather pay more sensible money and see it go to a good cause like the upkeep of an animal sanctuary.

Please help my pigs Petit, Filous, Pate, Brulee and Marcel.

petit-filous

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Webs
Cavies 'n Cobwebs

Post   » Wed Apr 06, 2005 9:54 am


I think this should have been added to the other thread you started. Either way I'm making some enquiries, will see what they come up with!

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Lynx
RESIST

Post   » Wed Apr 06, 2005 10:51 am


That is such discouraging news. I hope you can work something out. Don't you just want to hit someone on the head for these outrageous rules and regs?

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ParanoidEv

Post   » Wed Apr 06, 2005 2:18 pm


That is just stupid. Makes you think about smuggling piggies ;)

ChadWPB

Post   » Wed Apr 06, 2005 3:46 pm


It's ridiculous to quarantine that long for a domestic, generally indoor animal.

Frosty

Post   » Wed Apr 06, 2005 6:45 pm


That is rediculus.

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Ketus15
Love is a Guinea Pig

Post   » Wed Apr 06, 2005 7:57 pm


Smuggle piggies? Well, if thousands of illegal aliens can get into San Diego on a monthly basis, how hard can it be?

Just kidding, I'm a little bitter.

Anyways, sorry about your troubles. Good luck.

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_bloop

Post   » Wed Apr 06, 2005 8:25 pm


So, pretty much you're not allowed to bring the pigs into the country? Thats horrible...

(Sorry for my stupidity if I am wrong)

Evangeline

Post   » Wed Apr 06, 2005 8:31 pm


Someone from here (does anyone remember who?) moved from Australia to the UK, a little while ago. Because of the extended period of time her pigs would be pretty much stored away with no one to supervise them closely, she decided placing them into good homes was a better alternative than risking them getting sick and not getting the help they needed while in quarantine at the border. Because it wasn't a last minute thing, she had time to screen the adopters carefully.

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snowflakey
E's Moriarity

Post   » Wed Apr 06, 2005 8:36 pm


Yes, that was cea. How discouraging.

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TWP_2

Post   » Wed Apr 06, 2005 9:12 pm


That is ludicrous. Six months?

I suppose the rules are the same for wild rhesus monkeys from the congo as they are for guinea pigs, huh?

Jim

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TexCavy

Post   » Wed Apr 06, 2005 9:45 pm


I heard of a month or two, but 6? Geez! In that case, if it were my pigs, I'd probably have to do what cea did and find them good places to live.

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Ketus15
Love is a Guinea Pig

Post   » Wed Apr 06, 2005 10:55 pm


Unless of course the option of a rescfor the quarantine does appear. Good luck.

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Cavies 'n Cobwebs

Post   » Thu Apr 07, 2005 5:19 am


So far things are looking positive, I'm not sure how often the authorities check up on the animals in quarantine to see if they are still there... maybe we could get a hold of some lookalikes to stand in... ;·)
The quarantine is mainly for rabies so that's why cats, dogs and ferrets are the main culprits for getting shut up for 6 months but if they have anti-rabies shots they can get in generally alot easier. Guinea pigs are low risk of spreading the disease but they don't fit in any particular group so have to get lumped under the 'all other animals' 6 months category.

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Cavies 'n Cobwebs

Post   » Fri Apr 08, 2005 5:16 am


How far are you willing to travel pf? I have a contact in the Hastings area on the south coast but it may be a bit far if you will be in west London. map here

Edit to say no early release for 'good behaviour' unfortunately, and if the authorities do a spot check and discover the animals are not there they will be hunted down and destroyed - seriously!

petit-filous

Post   » Fri Apr 08, 2005 10:44 am


Thank you everyone for all your support. I hate how beauracracy gets in the way of animal rights, basically all sorts of rights in general!

Leaving my piggies behind in Bahrain isn't an option unless I find someone who will give them the same standard of care they receive from me--or a standard that I approve of. I have been asking around and it is looking increasingly unlikely. Hence my appeal for help.

If I can get them into a trusted quarantine in the UK who will take good care of them, I think we can weather this storm together.

webs, Hastings isn't too far away at all! I won't be working for the first 6 months or so after the move so I will be free to travel to see them every week.

In fact right now an animal sanctuary in Swansea may be able to take them in--I just spoke to the owner and he has 4 gp's of his own. He's waiting for the DEFRA vet in Wales to give him permission next week--fingers crossed!!! If all goes well, this June when I'm on holiday in the UK I plan to hop on a train to Swansea to check out his place and give him the full instructions on gp care, GuineaLynx style : )

webs if you could pass me your Hastings contact's email address and tel number I will contact them and arrange to visit them in June as well. It would be wonderful to be able to choose from several options! Many thanks in advance.

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deborah
I GAVE, dammit!

Post   » Fri Apr 08, 2005 12:29 pm


I dont know if this is feasible for you but it may be worth looking into the quarantine laws of other European countries. If they are not so stringent, you could fly from Bahrain to Europe with the pigs, get them "pet passports" and then come into the UK from there. I am sure it is against all the rules though! I have a friend who brought his cat back to England from Portugal recently without too much trouble and no need for quarantine.

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Cavies 'n Cobwebs

Post   » Fri Apr 08, 2005 1:18 pm


My contacts are through the CCT so the piggies will be in good hands! Will email you direct with details, I'm just waiting for confirmation of alternatives.

petit-filous

Post   » Sun Apr 10, 2005 2:49 am


Thanks webs I will wait for the info.

Thanks deborah I have already explored the EU country and special status country (Switzerland, Luxembourg, Monaco, San Marino, etc.) options. Unfortunately the end result is the same for all guinea pigs ultimately ending up in the UK--6 months of quarantine. The only difference is the quarantine can take place in EU and special status countries instead of the UK.

I just shudder to think about all the guinea pigs and other small animals currently excluded from the pet passport scheme being kept by British expatriate families in the Gulf / Middle East. If (God forbid) war or general instability were to ever break out en masse throughout the region, just imagine the numbers of small pets left behind because they could not be brought home without the tremendous hassle of a 6 month quarantine. Currently only dogs, cats and ferrets are on the pet passport scheme because they can be microchipped and vaccinated against rabies--both of which I believe are lethal to guinea pigs.

cea2001

Post   » Sun Apr 10, 2005 1:49 pm


Yes, it was me that moved back to the UK from Oz. I decided to rehome because of the length of quarantine and because I didn't want to put them through a 24 hour flight. The stress of travelling for that length of time and then having to put up with (to my mind) substandard care for 6 months meant it just wasn't an option.

I very much hope you can find a suitable place for quarantine (that doesn't charge the earth).

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