Anyway could you please tell me "trade name" and possible manufacturer of Polycitra, which is suitable for guinea pigs. From internet I found three products called Polycitra (all contains citrates), one was called Polycitra-K, other ones I don't remember anymore. Then I found an article about Polycitra used for humans for alkalise urine, but it sayd clearly that it is not same as Polycitra-K!!!
I wonder if I can even buy Polycitra from Finland (in local chemist they hadn't heard about it), but it could be easier with right trade name.
If anyone has good advice for her, please let me know.
I am guessing polycitra-K is the one. I'd have to look around.
http://www.rxmed.com/b.main/b2.pharmaceutical/b2.1.monograph ... LYCITRA.html
Note: I think this product must be taken with extra fluids.
Here's a link to all of the combinations.
Polycitra-K is potassium citrate plus citric acid. Polycitra-LC is potassium citrate plus tricitrates. Citrolith is potassium citrate plus sodium citrate. Orocit is sodium citrate plus citric acid. They all work the same way by introducing citrates into the urine to bind with the calcium.
There has to be something in Finland. This treatment has been around for quite a while.
I'll keep snooping around to see if I can find out more.
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Don't you understand the limitations of someone my age?!?
And who's going to teach me how to take a link and put my own words to it and make it a sexy color? Hmmm?
OK, so just paste the link into the quote feature, right?
No, the quote feature doesn't come into play. Check the FAQ above. You do -- don't put any spaces in that part. Then write the word you want to be able to see, then close it with a . If you go to the reply page thing you can do a post preview to know if it works.
But I know you are a brilliant person and could get this downpat if you needed to. As for "someone your age", you should be well aware I am several years older than you are.
- I GAVE, dammit!
The pig who's getting it drinks water like a fiend anyway. His cage is always double-time soaked in urine. Do I still need to give him more water on top of what he drinks anyway?
- I GAVE, dammit!
I spend a large part of my time back and forth between my house and my mom's. Sometimes it's not always possible to make it home that night or first thing the next morning to do pig meds. I try hard to do it, but it's just not always possible.
When I asked my vet what would happen if arthur didn't get the med exactly every twelve hours, she said she THOUGHT I could just dose it once a day (like I'm doing with his Metacam, Reglan, Lactulose, and Simethicone). She said that since the medication works on the bloodstream to regulate chemicals in the urine, the half life of it meant that there would still be a percentage of it working. Which meant that I could realistically dose him every 24 hours and it would be okay.
That would be a huge help to me if it were possible to do it that way. It's a strain as it is back and forth between houses, and it's impossible for him to come with me. Carting him around all the time in a Rubbermain bin would just be more stress than it's worth.
I'll look later, but if I recall correctly, it can be extremely harsh on their esphogus and upper GI system if it's not taken with water.
The dosing information for humans is four times a day. I'm imaging this is because it works on the urine by introducing citrates into the bladder and gets eliminated pretty quickly. I don't recall reading anything about it working via the bloodstream.
By giving the whole dose once a day, I imagine it might be too harsh. In addition, since one of its functions is to bind with excess calcium, more wouldn't necessarily be any more effective than half a dose, if that makes sense.
I'll see if I can dig up some more detailed urological sites for more info.
- I GAVE, dammit!
I'll only give him the 12 hour dose amount, and I'll do it every 12 hours if I can. If I can't, I guess it won't hurt him specifically. It sounds like it just wouldn't be as effective on those days.
I appreciate you taking time to look into this and help me.
Since the normal kidney is getting rid of acid continuously, the alkali needs to be given in frequent doses, usually in 3-4 doses a day. Once or twice a day dosing will generally leave the child acidotic (ie with high blood levels of acid) for a significant portion of the day
Still looking for info re: taking with water...
- I GAVE, dammit!
After thinking it over, I have decided that Arthur will just have to suffer the Rubbermaid bin, the psychotic cockatiel, and the neurotic Bichon and come with me this weekend. There just won't be a way for me to make sure he gets his meds on time unless he comes with. And I don't want to have him hurting any more than he already is. He's been in pain for so long with all this UTI stuff.
It's almost funny; to go care for my mother for a few days I feel like I'm packing to move - a suitcase, dogs, pigs, supplies, medicines, computer, portable drive, a portable filing cabinet. It's almost funny, except it isn't. Argh.
What symptoms would we be looking for if water was not administered?
We give the urocit twice a day