Which AB for emaciated pig?

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Post   » Tue Apr 15, 2003 11:21 pm

I've just had brought to my house an adult boar weighing about 530 grams. He's dehydrated and it looks like he has a URI, diarrhea and possibly malocclusion (he's got a wierd overbite).

I'm taking him to the ER for SQ right now and then want to start him on AB. ER vet is not cavy-savvy. My vet will not be in until Thursday p.m. I have both Bactrim and Baytril but am unsure if the Baytril will be too much for him in his condition.

Any opinions on that?


Post   » Wed Apr 16, 2003 12:19 am

6 of one, half a dozen of the other.


Post   » Wed Apr 16, 2003 1:49 am

Ah, I see. I'm just trying to keep him alive until the vet can see him on Thursday. I will start baytril, then.

The ER vet has no training with exotics. She did give him 20ml of LRS--why am I thinking it should have been more than that?


Post   » Wed Apr 16, 2003 2:03 am

If you can, give him another 20mls thru a subcue. He's small. There is probably a limit to how much can be injected at one time.

You know the drill for Diarrhea, right? Poop from helathy pig, no fresh greens, Kaopectate. If it doesn't improve, you may have to try Flagyl. It could be parasitic in nature.

A steam vaporizer may help.


Post   » Wed Apr 16, 2003 2:17 am

The lungs sounded ok to the ER vet, but he does have eye and nose discharge.

Poops are coming out harder now after some CC and kao.

He's pretty weak, gums are pale, temp is 98.

I want to give him some Meloxi but mine is diluted ot .85mg/ml. Haven't the slightest idea how to transform the dosages I find on here (at 1.5 mg/ml). Billy Bob, at 1200g, gets .5cc daily. Maybe I'll just cut that in half.

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Post   » Wed Apr 16, 2003 7:41 am

Yes, that would be in the ball park. Good luck with this guy. Let us know how he does.


Post   » Wed Apr 16, 2003 4:08 pm

Well, he has stopped pooping. I gave him some Reglan but nothing yet. He seems interested in Romaine but can't bring himself to eat--probably too weak.

His urine is red-tinged.

I tried to get in earlier at the vet but he can't see me until tomorrow night. We will probably go back to the ER for more SQ tonight.

Little Jo Wheek

Post   » Wed Apr 16, 2003 4:31 pm

Make sure you keep him warm. 98 F is low. Good luck. I'm hoping he recovers.

I GAVE, dammit!

Post   » Wed Apr 16, 2003 4:48 pm

I hope he does okay. You have had the sickest rescues lately. Bless your heart.

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Post   » Wed Apr 16, 2003 4:56 pm

This is terrible. It could have totally been prevented. These people need a good 'talking to'.


Post   » Wed Apr 16, 2003 5:07 pm

Thanks everyone. I am keeping him warm on a heating pad. He looks pretty sick.

If the ER vet has injectable Reglan tonight, how much should I tell her to give him? And how much LRS? I have gotten his weight up to 622g.


Post   » Wed Apr 16, 2003 5:24 pm

His temp is up to 101.1

Little Jo Wheek

Post   » Wed Apr 16, 2003 9:08 pm

I'd go for 30-35 cc of LRS. Reglan, give 1 mg/kg PO (orally), IM,or SQ q12h. 0.5 to 0.6 mg sounds about right. Dosage is the same not matter the route. The temp. is better (100-102.5 is normal).


Post   » Wed Apr 16, 2003 9:21 pm

Thank you Josephine, that's helpful. The ER vet who saw him yesterday was at least marginally knowledgeable about guinea pigs (mostly due to seeing mine) but the vet tonight will not have a clue.

He has still not pooped, so onto the second dose of Reglan.

Little Jo Wheek

Post   » Wed Apr 16, 2003 9:35 pm

You're continuing to force-feed, right?


Post   » Wed Apr 16, 2003 9:45 pm

Yes, 10cc of Critical Care and 10cc of Pedialyte every 3 hours, plus liquid C, poop soup, reglan, Meloxicam, Baytril. His eyes are weeping so I am putting bnp in them. He also has some sores on his back feet. Right now, I'm going to put him in warm water and massage his abdomen.

He smells awful, like human urine. I can't explain it.


Post   » Wed Apr 16, 2003 9:56 pm

I don't know if I'd bathe him while he's really weak. The stress and temp change of drying off may be too stressful for him.


Post   » Wed Apr 16, 2003 9:58 pm

I was thinking that massaging the abdomen in warm water might stimulate his bowels. So you think this is not a good idea?

His stomach is painful.

Little Jo Wheek

Post   » Wed Apr 16, 2003 10:01 pm

Do you think the smell is coming from his mouth? Molar problems and certain metabolic changes can cause a urine-like breath.

Poor guy. It could also just be his previous poor living conditions. Some pet stores and animals living even temporarily there reek of urine (ammonia).


Post   » Wed Apr 16, 2003 10:04 pm

You don't need warm water to massage his tummy. If it's painful, I would be very careful. I'd also be careful with the forcefeeding until he poops. If his tummy's too full and the food isn't moving thru it will be painful.

SQs and Reglan will help the most.

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