Slight white discharge from nose

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slfalzone

Post   » Wed Jan 03, 2007 9:10 pm


Teddy usually only has one snotty nostril. Sometimes both.

Here's Teddy's thread: there's a lot of info - not all of it - perhaps none of it will be relevant, but the threads contain all the trials and tribulations of Teddy and Ginger. Both have nasal issues.

Teddy's Thread

Ginger's Thread

Just so you know, a few visits ago my vet - who I love - said he didn't think there was an infection - LUCKILY Teddy sneezed just once before we left and there was green snot so I got the Ab's I needed.

Does hermoine sound snotty or do you just see discharge?

My vet always tells me that even a white discharge is cause for concern. Clear discharge less of a worry - although of course that needs to be given attention incase things worsen.

kellysed

Post   » Wed Jan 03, 2007 9:43 pm


The discharge reminds me of spit -clear with some white. She doesn't have it now, when on towels in a laundry basket. That is how I transported her to vet. I don't have a carrier. I am going to try the polar fleece. She does not sound congested. I was worried about her lungs. Vet said they sound fine. One nostril only which makes him wonder about teeth. He said yes, they would put her under to do a scope or xray.

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slfalzone

Post   » Thu Jan 04, 2007 11:51 pm


Yep - Teddy's discharge is usually clear with a center of white when an infection is beginning.

It may not be an infection in your piggy, and I am not an expert by any means havin only ever had 1 piggy - but I'd keep a very close eye.

kellysed

Post   » Sat Jan 06, 2007 10:41 am


Hermione seems to have a dry nose most of the day. She typically sneezes 1-2 times a day and produces a clear/white drip from her right nostril. I don't recall the sneezing before. Her nose used to just run. I am going to watch the sneezing. She is eating normal and acting normal. I am going to get fleece this weekend. Clearing the area of all dust and shavings in both cages and putting them back together. She seems better on the towels but Hermione's cage is still in the same area as my pine/carefresh cage.

What moisture wicking material do you put under the fleece? Newspaper or do you still use pine? Also do you double the fleece or does that just trap in the urine. I see the picture of the sleeping pig on the bedding info area of your site. That bedding looks like something called Vet Bed - does anyone use that?

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Lynx
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Post   » Sat Jan 06, 2007 11:29 am


Yes, some people use Vet Bed or products like it.

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Post   » Thu Jan 18, 2007 8:24 pm


I'm adding this to your thread, since you mentioned diet earlier in the thread and then posted this elsewhere:
Wondering about carrots? I feed my two pigs - 4 small carrots in AM. They got more when they were young. They are now 4yrs old. Is this not a good thing? They get Oxbow pellets and hay/orchard grass everyday. In evening they are given either: green pepper, parsley, leaf lettuce, limited broccoli, occasional orange wedge. I thought seeded fruits like strawberries were bad. Mine also prefer veggies and don't care for fruits that much. I thought fruits had TOO much sugar - which is why I avoid them. I thought carrots were safer. Your diet area is first I read that carrots should be limited. WHY?
Carrots are very high in sugar and should be limited to no more than one small baby carrot per day per pig. If you read through the diet section you'll find that fruit must also be limited. I do give mine the odd strawberry (which is not bad for them, but it is a fruit).

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Post   » Thu Jan 18, 2007 8:28 pm


Carrots have nearly as much sugar in them as fruits, so they fall into the 'limited' category. Seeded fruits like strawberry are no worse than any other fruits, and they do have a good bit of vitamin C in them, so they're not necessarily bad.

Just like children, some guinea pigs can handle a good bit of sugar, while others can handle very little. Limiting it and keeping a good eye on it is the best way to prevent problems. If your two have no problem with 4 small carrots in the morning, then to me it's not bad. But be advised as they age, they may (or may not) start to have some GI disturbance from them.

Excessive sugars disturb the balance of flora in the GI tract. If your pigs start to get gassy, have smaller or 'pinched'-shape feces, or feces with mucous strings attached, or any other GI imbalance, an excess of sugar is one place to look for the problem.

kellysed

Post   » Thu Jan 18, 2007 8:43 pm


Thank you. I am bedding them now on sherpa/fleece and they seem happy although I clean it much more. I will watch the carrots. Both of them are old ladies and seem to be more frail - now that they are older. I need to get a scale as both seem thinner, not drastically, but over the course of a year. I assume it is age, like when we get old. Both have good appetites. I need to buy more hay, but find this time of year Oxbow hay is not their favorite. Anyone buy hay from them lately? Mine love it when it is green!! They get hay every day and seem to enjoy it - although I wish they would eat more of it.

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Post   » Thu Jan 18, 2007 8:51 pm


I need to buy more hay, but find this time of year Oxbow hay is not their favorite.
You never run out of hay, right? They absolutely have to have a constant supply - critical for keeping their GI tracts running well and to wear down their teeth properly.

Also, you must get a scale asap and start weighing them every day. Weightloss is not a normal part of aging - certainly not when it's enough that you can see it (which means it's a large amount).

If they've really lost a lot of weight you need to start investigating why. This is why we recommend people weigh their animals at least weekly: weightloss is often the first sign of illness, but by the time you see it it's a large amount and usually critical.

Kleenmama's hay (www.kmshayloft.com) is always wonderfully green - my pigs love it.

Also, a 4-year old pig isn't particularly old - just middle-aged. They can live many more years with good care.

You really need to address the weightloss.

kellysed

Post   » Thu Jan 18, 2007 9:01 pm


Thanks, I will check into it. My pet store has KayBee hay (I think). I ALWAYS have hay on hand. I am looking into ordering more (I live in OH). I have about a week's supply left. Where did you get your scale? I am not sure they lost weight but I can weigh them to make sure they don't in future. Their bones seem thinner now, more frail. Last vet said 3-5 years, longer if they don't get cancer. I have read 3-5, 4-6, 7-10 years many various age ranges. I am not sure what to believe. These are my first pigs so I tried/try to do alot of research. Actually they are my daughters (9-now) so you know how that goes.

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Post   » Thu Jan 18, 2007 9:11 pm


Kaytee hay, perhaps you mean?

It's ok, providing it's not brown.

It's actually much cheaper to order KM's hay, because you're ordering a much larger amount. Or you can sometimes find loose hay from a feedstore.

Guinea pigs can live 6-8 years - some even longer (on this site). But they really do need proper care, and it's frequently hard to find a vet who can take care of the small things.

Weighing regularly is a critical part of this! You can get a kitchen scale (digital is best) from Target or Walmart, or a postal scale from an office supply store (that's what I use). Just stick a salad bowl on top and pop the pig in there - and keep a record.

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Post   » Thu Sep 27, 2007 9:57 am


Here's your post from your other thread:

FInally, after numerous signon attempts. THis is so cumbersome. I don't remember what my thread was in January. Sorry.

Hermione is my guinea. She is now 4 years and about 9 months. We went to vet in beginning of Sept. He basically said she is fine, that unless she is not eating than nothing is wrong. I thought she was breathing funny and maybe thought there was fluid around her heart. He said that SHE IS OLDER and average life span for Guinea is 4-8 years average being 5. Another words why put her through endless testing late in life - what is the purpose? Well now she is not eating. I have a few questions:

How to get Critical care?
Do they have to sedate her for an xray?
Should I give her the little bit of Benibac that I have left from another time?
SHe is showing no outward distress, just sits in her house. Doesn't run to food like she used to, although she did come out for dinner yesterday. The other guinea is same age, now very thin, but active, like a skinney old lady. She eats and is fine. Hermione is actually the fatter pig and still is at this point. No I do not have a scale. She had lost very little (almost same weigh) from when she was there in Jan to early Sept. Vet was not concerned at that time.

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Post   » Thu Sep 27, 2007 10:00 am


I thought she was breathing funny and maybe thought there was fluid around her heart. He said that SHE IS OLDER and average life span for Guinea is 4-8 years average being 5.
Almost every single older pig that has come through my rescue has been a 'heart' pig.

An xray, for which she wouldn't have to be sedated, may show fluid in the lungs and/or an enlarged heart. But there's not much point in doing one if your vet isn't experienced/willing to diagnose and treat heart issues.

You can read about heart issues here:

http://www.guinealynx.info/heart.html

It's not hard to manage a heart pig with human lotensin.

You *need* to start weighing her now. You can use a postal scale, a kitchen scale, or any type of scale you want. But weekly weighings are critical - most particularly now.

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Post   » Thu Sep 27, 2007 10:05 am



kellysed

Post   » Thu Sep 27, 2007 1:16 pm


I have a call into the vet. I actually like him. After checking her vitals on 9/1, she was eating then, he saw no need to do anything further. He thought she was breathing fine and her heart sounded normal. He checked her teeth and she had spunk then, making a mad noise when he examined her. Today, I asked if she needed to be sedated for an xray. I did read a thread on your site where a pig's heart stopped three times during the sedation/xray. Last time, my vet had mentioned that females can get ovarian cancer at her age (she was never spayed). He was just trying to warn me of things to come. My other pig, I believe may be hyperthyroid. SHe is a skinney pig, either that or has lost bone density due to age. SHe is very active though always trying to run when you put her down and eats alot, although is thin. Her weight is stable.

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Post   » Thu Sep 27, 2007 1:40 pm


It's not necessary to sedate a guinea pig to take an xray. The only time it's necessary is to take specialized dental xrays.

kellysed

Post   » Thu Sep 27, 2007 1:53 pm


Thank you all for your support. Hermione has died peacefully. I had her in a little basket and when I went to check on her she was very still, although her eyes are open. She is still warm, but does not seem to be breathing. She lived about 4 years and 9 months with no problems until the slight white discharge from her nose in December. She was fine after that but yesterday ate little and today nothing. I didn't get her to the vet on time I guess, but I am not sure there was anything they could have done. All her vitals were fine on September 1st. She was so beautiful. My daughter is 10 and it was her first guinea pig. The other guinea is alive, but was never as cuddly or she was.

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PooksiedAnimals
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Post   » Thu Sep 27, 2007 2:00 pm


Very sorry for your loss.

Tracis
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Post   » Thu Sep 27, 2007 2:45 pm


I'm sorry that your beautiful Hermione is gone. Guinea pigs can go downhill so fast. First guinea pigs always hold a special place in our hearts.

Her cagemate may need extra care during the grieving process. Sometimes they do not want to eat without their friend.

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Post   » Thu Sep 27, 2007 5:42 pm


I am so sorry you lost her. You might want to read this over for your other guinea pig:

www.guinealynx.info/alone.html

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