Some people I speak to beleive that they are exactly the same thing, others say that they are different but have not been able to actually state how.
So is there a difference between the two? Does it relate to the colour of the tissue below? The size of the "fatty" deposit?
There are numerous posts here on fatty eye or pea eye, but I have been unsuccessful in finding one that compares the two - if someone knows where one is, please point me in the right direction.
This is a photo I took of a cavy with what was beleived to be fatty eye - is it? or is it pea eye? How can it be distinguished in this photo?
Thanks in advance.
I know you're a breeder. You're not breeding pea eye pigs, are you?
I just saw this piggy at a friends house - just a pet, and when the cavy was sitting normally (kind of hard to see in this photo) it was a veyr large fatty deposit - I had never seen it at that stage before.
Hmmm...if they are the same I wonder why they dont just have one universal name, and why some beleive they are different.
I am mainly enquiring to the differences - if any, so thanks to those with that information.
I have not heard about using Lasix (actually never heard of it) is there a thread on this forum re: the use of this with results?
- E's Moriarity
from ACBA Website Discussion Board: General Questions: Pea Eye? Fatty Eye?
By Terri Torpin (Quaker) on Monday, August 16, 1999 - 10:16 am:
My daughter and I were at the Stanwood County Fair last week. My daughter is in 4H. While she was in her fit and show class the judge asked the kids the difference between pea eye and fatty eye? The kids did not think there was a difference. I have a cavy who clearly has pea eye. He had it by the time he was 3 months old. It is pea shaped and protrudes. You can see it at all times, no matter where he is looking. I also have a sow who is 2 years old and is showing signs of what I've been told is fatty eye. It is not pea shaped, but flatter and crescent-shaped, you can't see it unless she is looking up. Are these two different things? Or just two degrees of the same thing?
Thanks, Terri Torpin
By Tracy Iverson (Tracyi) on Tuesday, August 17, 1999 - 09:48 am:
They really are two different things; "pea eye" is a round knot attached to eye and is very rare. "fatty eye" is the protrusion of the lower conjunctival sac, a creamy or yellow fatty tissue along the lower edge of the eyelid, it is considered to be inherited. For some reason in the US a lot of the fancy started to call Fatty eye, pea eye instead, I do not.
There is also a third condition called Red-eye which we don't see much in the US, more in the UK and Australia, it is very similar to Fatty-eye, accept that the tissue doesn't swell out as much and you then see the blood vessels of the conjunctival sac, in my opinion it is a lesser version of Fatty-eye, that can come and go on an animal, it too in my opinion is inherited.
- Little Jo Wheek
I'm wondering if the fact that conformation can lead eyelids to droop which could be the "fatty eye" breeders talk about. They could be describing normal anatomy that normally would not be so visible. In any case, it is still genetically influenced.
Cherry Eye and pics: http://home.flash.net/~anmleyz/cherry_eye.htm
Cherry eye is actually a bit different and it is also inherited. It is actually pertaining to a gland and it is "pink" instead of the white conjunctival color.
- Poop Obsessed
Interesting info about the correlation between pea eye and heart conditions. My lovely Madeleine had pea eye and died from congestive heart failure. She was also of the breed lines that serve laboratories.. the white body and black head.. and very obese compared to all the other piggies she lived with.
Skunk had pea eye, too.. but we don't know how he died. His necropsy was unrevealing 4 years ago.
I have also had other piggies die from CHF who did not have pea eye. Natch.
I also heard from my vet that pea eye was hereditary.
I actually know Tracy Iverson, so may email him directly with some questions, as his reply seemed to contain some specific information.
I have never heard of "cherry eye" before, Red Eye, I have seen in a cavy, but never categorised it as similar to fatty eye / pea eye.
I have been told by a few people that fatty eye (apart from being hereditary) is also a result of excessive weight, and that putting the cavy on a diet will make it disappear. I dont beleive it will, I just think that maybe it will make it less noticable as the eyelid will not droop as predominantly.
Thanks again all for your input.
- Poop Obsessed
Skunk wasn't overweight at all and his pea eye was very pronounced. Both his and Madeleine's pea eye worsened with age, not weight fluctuations.I dont beleive it will, I just think that maybe it will make it less noticable as the eyelid will not droop as predominantly.