Belle's eye >> red growth thing

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swannie
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Post   » Sun Apr 04, 2004 4:31 pm


Steve and I were out this morning, and we came back and were greeting the pigs and I immediately noticed that Belle's eye looked weird. Upon closer inpsection, she has red nodules coming out from the upper eyelid of her left eye. The eye itself is not clouded (which is what we've seen when our pigs have been poked in the eye with hay), and it most definitely was not like this last night when I took pictures of her.

Anyway, here's what it looks like. Could this be pea-eye? It doesn't look enclosed within any membrane at all. I had a good look at her other eye and saw what might be the beginnings of something similar on her lower lid (see bottom pic). I put a bit of antibiotic opthalmic ointment on it for now and will call the vet in the AM (probably just the local vet) to see if they can squeeze her in in the PM as I'm taking a half day to get ready for Passover.

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snowflakey
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Post   » Sun Apr 04, 2004 4:57 pm


Those pictures look terrible. Is Belle's eye hurting her? I hope you get in to the vet tomorrow.

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swannie
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Post   » Sun Apr 04, 2004 5:32 pm


She seemed to wince a little when I put the AB ointment on, but that might have been a general 'eeek you're messing with my eyeball' reaction.

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Dobby
I gave what I could!

Post   » Sun Apr 04, 2004 5:56 pm


My uncle's dog has a chronic conditoin that looks similar to your pig's eye. What the dog's probelm is is enlarged tear ducts. I don't know if that is what it wrong with Belle, but it looks identical to the dog's eyes.

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swannie
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Post   » Sun Apr 04, 2004 6:00 pm


Would something like that literally appear overnight?

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lisam

Post   » Sun Apr 04, 2004 6:19 pm


It's not pea eye, but looks to be some kind of swelling. Josephine would know what it is, or a vet visit is in order.

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melcvt00

Post   » Sun Apr 04, 2004 6:20 pm


I told Swannie that my first thought is that something got under that eyelid and is causing/caused inflammation.

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Lynx
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Post   » Sun Apr 04, 2004 8:30 pm


I seem to remember reading about something similar but I'm afraid I don't remember any details. Poor girl. Opthalmic ointment sounds like a good idea. You posted in the Feedback forum that you don't mind if I copy your pics. So, assuming you still don't mind, I'm going to save the top one and add it to the thread (it is very clear).

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swannie
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Post   » Sun Apr 04, 2004 8:31 pm


Sure thing. I'll hopefully be able to see a vet tomorrow and get some answers.

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Dobby
I gave what I could!

Post   » Sun Apr 04, 2004 9:37 pm


I never thought to ask if it just happened or if it developed over time.
Good luck at the vet. :)

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KarasKavies
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Post   » Sun Apr 04, 2004 9:42 pm


I have two sows with lower lids just like the lower lid photo. I have had the vet look at them many times and he didn't seem to think it was anything we could do anything about. Actually, now that I think of it, I have three pigs with one eye like that.

I have used drops etc. but nothing seemed to make any difference. It seems like at times it gets smaller and at times it gets bigger, but it is always there. They have been like this for well over a year and don't bother the pig at all.

As far as it happening overnight, it did seem like I sdidn't see it one day and then it was there the next day. I suppose it happens over time, but we don't notice it until it is more obvious.

It can also be caused by something getting in the eye. The vet used the dye on two of my pigs and there was nothing there. It all looked great.

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swannie
For the love of pigs!

Post   » Sun Apr 04, 2004 11:15 pm


Erin, have you ever seen anything like this on LP or her other kids?

Erin8607
Knee Deep

Post   » Sun Apr 04, 2004 11:25 pm


Holy crap, No!

Karma had something similar, though. My rabbit. I used Ciloxan 0.3% Eye Drops ALC on her and it cleared it up within a couple days.


Please do let me know what the vet had to say, that looks painful.

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swannie
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Post   » Sun Apr 04, 2004 11:26 pm


It gives me the heebies to see the picture, but it's not as startling in real life.

Will report back when we have more info.

kleenmama
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Post   » Mon Apr 05, 2004 12:04 am


Yeah, it's not pea eye. I've never seen cherry eye, just heard of it, but a vet check is on order.

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swannie
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Post   » Mon Apr 05, 2004 10:48 am


Vet appt. at 4pm today. Wish us luck!

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leebee

Post   » Mon Apr 05, 2004 11:12 am


Newton had the exact problem with his eyes. If you pull the lid back, her conjuctiva is probably very inflamed all the way back. The vet gave me some BNP, and I also found that saline solution (the same kind I use for my contacts) helped him a lot. The vet said it can happen due to allergies, etc. Both of Newton's eyes were affected as well.

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swannie
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Post   » Mon Apr 05, 2004 1:16 pm


BNP=an antibiotic eye ointment? Or something else?

I haven't had the guts to pull her eyelid back. I'll let the vet handle that.

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leebee

Post   » Mon Apr 05, 2004 1:33 pm


Yep, BNP opthalmic seems to be the generic eye "cure-all". I've used it for hay pokes, I used it when Reg had his eye surgery and I used it with Newt's conjunctivitis. It works great, but they hate it and it gets their cheeks all greasy.

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swannie
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Post   » Mon Apr 05, 2004 4:58 pm


Vet said she had inflamed conjunctiva (duh) and prescribed BNP with hydrocortisone (Vetropolycin HC). I'm supposed to dab the ointmnent in 2 or 3 times daily. Just put some in her eye now. He said we should see improvement within a few days. I said I was generally wary of cortisone, but he said such a small amount over a short period of time was nothing to be concerned about.

Thoughts?

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