Marilyn - Blood in Urine

ChadWPB

Post   » Fri Jul 09, 2004 7:29 pm


Today was cage cleaning day, but my wife noticed red spots in the fresh bedding. A quick examination revealed blood spots on her underside.

As my wife held her, she peed again. Distinct blood, wincing and crying while peeing. We gave her .2ml Metacam (10mg/ml) since this is probably rather painful. She's 2lbs. 6oz. (1,110g).

Interestingly enough, we were going to bring her to the vet with Snuggles to keep him company. Now it looks like she will be joining her boyfriend as a patient. Our appointment is for 1PM.

We will keep you updated. It seems like this could be one of a number of problems.

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domill

Post   » Fri Jul 09, 2004 7:46 pm


Boy Chad , you sure have had your hands full lately. Hope everything is ok with Mariyln.

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Lynx
RESIST

Post   » Fri Jul 09, 2004 8:12 pm


Is this new with Marilyn? Has she had other problems you've posted about?

HollyT
Get on your bike.

Post   » Fri Jul 09, 2004 8:14 pm


I hope it's just a run of the mill UTI. Let us know what the vet says.

Erin8607
Knee Deep

Post   » Fri Jul 09, 2004 8:14 pm


Always happens right before you're supposed to go on vacation, doesn't it?

I hope she recovers quickly.

ChadWPB

Post   » Fri Jul 09, 2004 8:58 pm


Nope. This is brand new. I even brought her into the bedroom when my wife woke this morning and she peed on the sheets. It was a clean and pain free pee.

However, my wife notes that she's not in pain at all when she poops. Pain while pooping according to the GL medical pages is a sign of stones.

Erin - You just might meet the little girl, then. If she requires medicating, she's taking a trip to Pittsburgh with us.

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swannie
For the love of pigs!

Post   » Fri Jul 09, 2004 9:31 pm


Don't think she doesn't have a stone just because she doesn't appear to have pain while pooping. George didn't have that symptom, and she had a huge honking bladder stone.

Here's hoping it's just a UTI...

ChadWPB

Post   » Fri Jul 09, 2004 9:34 pm


Yeah, guess I'm just hoping it's just a UTI.

ChadWPB

Post   » Sat Jul 10, 2004 11:26 am


Ack. I got my mumbers crossed. The Metacam is 1.5mg/ml (in a 10ml bottle).

ChadWPB

Post   » Sat Jul 10, 2004 3:00 pm


Back from the vet.

Marilyn was examined and X-rayed. The good news is that she is stone free! In fact, he remearked on her remarkably good health. The bad news is that she does have a UTI, at least unofficially. Marilyn happily provided the vet a urine sample (she also provided me, on my shirt!). A small bit was tested for blood, which was positive. A full urine culture is also being taken. We will get the results while we're away, so updates will wait till we get back.

She was prescribed .7ml Baytril twice daily (10mg/ml) for 14 days.

With all this, she is the lucky winner of a vacation to sunny Pittsburgh. She will be traveling with fellow patient, Snuggles.

At least traveling in pairs is less stressful for the pigs!

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snowflakey
E's Moriarity

Post   » Sat Jul 10, 2004 3:03 pm


Well, it could be their honeymoon, of sorts. Hope she feels better soon. They might make your trip even more enjoyable.

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Lynx
RESIST

Post   » Sat Jul 10, 2004 3:20 pm


Ack. Will you get the results from the urine culture before you leave? Be mindful of some recent experiences with baytril not completely knocking out the offending bacteria. If Carol's pig had been properly prescribed bactrim, she might not have had the long term problems and surgery she ended up with.

Baytril may control it but may not cure it. I had to fight my vet to get bactrim after the baytril didn't work (a day after stopping treatment, she started bleeding again). And it may actually require more than 2 weeks of treatment. Not posting on your other thread but glad they will both be in your hands on vacation.

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snowflakey
E's Moriarity

Post   » Sat Jul 10, 2004 3:25 pm


I got bactrim for the one UTI in the "family," and it worked very well. The pigs seem to love the taste, and for mine it didn't interfere much with the appetite. UTI pig actually ran wheeking to the grids for her twice-daily dose. I just gave it to her there. She's a nut.

ChadWPB

Post   » Sat Jul 10, 2004 3:44 pm


I'll bet that after seeing the results of the culture, we'll be switched to Bactrim, since he'll know for sure what's ailing her a that time. I'll also ask about it, and I'm going to print the AB page and take it with us on our trip.

We have tons of Baytril now and both pigs will keep getting it as long as we have any.

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Lynx
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Post   » Sat Jul 10, 2004 3:53 pm


All I can say is that if the sensitivity test is okay for bactrim, I would use it, having had much better luck with bactrim than baytril for UTI's. If the sensitivity test showed either baytril or bactrim would work, I'd still try to convince the vet to give me bactrim.

If you end up with baytril and notice any problems or recurrence after stopping the meds, do lobby for bactrim.

Good luck.

Erin8607
Knee Deep

Post   » Sun Jul 11, 2004 12:04 am


Travelling isnt' too bad, at least in my experience. I've taken pigs to MN for two years in a row now, which is a 12-14 hour drive. The first year I took 4 pigs, this year I took 12 - all did very well. I don't think you'll have any problems as long as your smart about it - no leaving them in the sun, no leaving them alone in the car, have air conditioning, etc.

Good luck, I can be excited to meet two of Florida's famous pigs - just a shame they are coming due to illness.

ChadWPB

Post   » Sun Jul 11, 2004 5:14 pm


Erin, you couldn't tell they were ill until you're watching me trying to dose their AB's. They're both chippy and and constantly munching on hay. I'd be happy to bring them over to your place. (Don't worry, they're recently treated with Ivermectin - no mites!)

I have Benebac for the car trips, since mining for fresh poop will be difficult on the road (driving straight through!). The trip is 18-19 hours and is 1,200 miles.

I've also pre-cut the coroplast needed to build two 2x5's, one for my MIL's new piggie and another for the happy couple. When we get to PGH, we'll score and fold the sides and tape the halves together (wife's really good with the tape) and voila, comfy piggie digs! My wife and her mom will do that, after 19 hours behind the wheel, I'm going to pass out.

To be honest, I miss my pigs bitterly on road trips. Bringing a pair with me will cut that down considerably.

ChadWPB

Post   » Sun Jul 11, 2004 5:28 pm


On a related note, since Princess will be left alone in her cage with Snuggles and Marilyn going up north with us, she will be borrowing a buddy from the other cage. Looks like Amee will be the one, since Fuzzie's intact and Callie's also dominant and will fight. I have Princess and Amee playing on the floor. After a bit of teeth chattering they largely ignore each other.

Erin8607
Knee Deep

Post   » Sun Jul 11, 2004 5:34 pm


Three's company, right :-)

ChadWPB

Post   » Sun Jul 11, 2004 5:42 pm


I will have a third coming up for my MIL. ;+)

Since we're bringing up a week's worth of stuff and a lot of supplies (giving away large monitor, piggie supples for MIL, etc.), room is an issue. I drive a 2000 Grand Am.

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