Zipper does have an enlarged heart. Vet did x-rays and said it could be contengital since she is a runt. Vet also said there is some fluid in her left lung, liver looks good. Breathing was terribly labored, I mistook the labored breathing for a strongly beating heart. Vet gave her an injection of Baytril .2 cc's I believe and an injection of Lasix 2.5 ml. I was given baytril for give twice a day.2 cc's. I was given an RX for liquid lasix but my pharamacy didn't have it and called around to several and they don't carry it. They are ordering it for me and should be in about 9am today. They did crush up the dosage in a pill and put it in a solution for me to give to her this am. The dosage of the liquid lasix is 2ml every 12 hours. I called my vet this am and she's not in yet. She'll call me. I don't think the lasix dose is high enough to get her stabilized. Her breathing did improve last evening but this am it's almost right back to where it was when I took her in. I had printed several threads but when she said lasix and an injection I didn't bring them up. She said Zipper is certainly not in heart failure so I didn't mention a higher dose. Pinta, you said after four hours your pig in complete failure acted like nothing had happened. Should Zipper be back to normal after a good dose of the lasix? Should it take a few days to return to normal? The vet said I should see an improvement in about an hour after the injection, which I did. I also don't think I got the entire dose into her this am as her breathing was quite labored and I was afraid of getting into her lungs. She is drinking like a fish, vet said this dosage wasn't high enough to worry about dehydration as long as I see Zipper drinking, and she is. She ate her veggies and pellets this am. I just want to make sure the lasix is high enough. Sorry to go on and on. I worry way too much sometimes, I think.
The dose we usually start heart pigs on is 0.5cc (10MG/ML oral solution Lasix) daily. We notice an improvement if it is working in about 5 days - sometimes sooner. Bloom is on 0.75 divided dose for twice daily.
I also worry because I can't bring her here with me, band room is way too noisy for an already stressed pig and I can't always ask my Atila the Hun assist. headmaster if I can go home at lunch. I'm trying to corner the headmaster before lunch today.
So pinta's dose of 5 ml is actually 5 cc's? not .5 cc? I'm so confused.
So the pig would be getting in half of a 10mg/ml (aka 10mg/cc), 5mg.
Cara needs to supply mg/cc
This tells how concentrated it is.
If her pig is getting 2ml, the amount of the drug will depend on the concentration.
For example, if it was diluted to 1mg/cc, then 2 ml would be providing 2mg.
And no, you cannot start a new thread on the same pig. People read what is new, what is at the top. Pinta would not miss it, neither would anyone else.
You are going to the back of the class. Next time I'm sending you to the principal's office.
You need to know the concentration of the formula. This dosage Pinta recommended to me was for suspected heart disease. If you have a pig that definately has heart disease and is crashing I would think (but again I am reiterating the fact I am not an expert or even that knowledgable) you would need a higher dose.
Christal---pure layman and no expert
Sorry Lynx, I haven't been to the prinicpals office in loooooong time. The other thread didn't have any useful info in it anyway.
PauloF what's a ferule?
the dose in one of the med books is 2-5mg/kg every 12 hours.
Everyone needs to get into the habit of putting a "0" in front of the decimal point so doses aren't misread.
It sounds like the dose is in the medium range for Zipper. Your vet might want to go to the highest dose for a day (with a hydration subcue treatment) to clear out the fluid in the lungs and then reduce down to a maintenance dose.
Pigs in heart failure can't even walk. The difference is amazing when they get the Lasix. Some of these pigs showed no previous symptoms - they just collapsed. If the pig is already functioning I have found it takes about 5 days to see a noticeable improvement on Lasix.
I think Zipper should be on Enacard (a blood pressure med) also.