The skittish 3 month-old boar I just got in foster has a purplish sore on the side of his mouth (not on his lip but just below it in the corner). I read all the posts on mouth sores already and will take him to the vet if there is no improvement in 2 days. I just have 3 questions for now:
Is it o.k. to put a little neosporin it?
Should I separate him from his littermate in case it is a virus?
Should I stop giving him oranges (I don't give apples)?
He has already been started on an Ivermectin regimen, 4 days ago.
I appreciate any replies. He is a real tiny guy ( a runt ) and just starting to warm up to me. It may be just a sore from cage-chewing.
- Little Jo Wheek
I'm not sure I would leave it untreated. Mouth infections are nasty to deal with. I have a sow that has been battling one for almost a year and a half now. I wish that I had not been hesitant in using the BNP at first.
(I was figuring Nicole would be seeing a vet if it got worse since she said she would).
Do you know anything about Gentian Violet? Supposedly works for mouth sores but I remember seeing a page from the net that had it a little less benign then I was led to believe.
E used something that worked very well on mouth sores. Hopefully she'll check in.
I had a pig with mouth sores that kept going on for what seemed like forever(a long time ago). Theyu'd heal only to come back days later. After countless vet visits and trying different things we eventually gave up on ever getting rid of them and just let them be. As time passed, they disappeared without treatment and never came back.
It was on a previous thread that I read about the gentian violet, the neosporin, and tea tree oil. I think I'll stay away from all three and go to the vet if medication is needed.
Pinta, you're right--I will certainly not leave it untreated. But in case it's due to fighting or cage biting, I'm going to wait 48 hours to drag the poor thing down to the vet. He is very terrified and just today gave a little sigh on my lap.
I will watch him closely and thank you all for the advice.
I had a sow with mouth sores, Ruby. She had them twice (although not that bad, just one little scab). I did not treat her and she recovered and hasn't had any since. I did read that bad cases sometimes do better on a bout of antibiotics.
Joesphine, is that colloidal silver you are talking about?
- Little Jo Wheek
Baytril is safe. Certainly wouldn't hurt to use it topically.
Never heard anything good about Genetian violet by reputable sources.
As far as the BNP, I don't know about amounts to cause adverse reactions. I certainly DON'T recommend it for general use in cavies (except eye ointments). I tried Baytril on my sow, Smz-Tmp, etc. The BNP is what worked. I wish just leaving it alone would make it go away. Her mouth gets so sore and ulcerated she won't eat well and there is almost no normal tissue. On the BNP, her lips heal to the point where it is hardly noticable and she eats fine. I've never fed copious quantities (or any much at all) of "acidic" foods. Rosenthal and Brown's book on exotics claim prognosis is poor. I have at least given her some quality of life with the BNP.
Perhaps we are talking about two different infections. All I know is that left alone to proliferate, lip infections (chelitis) are difficult to nearly impossible to cure in many species. Whatever sore allows the Staph. or other causative agent in should be protected as much as possible to prevent it.
- Little Jo Wheek
There's a pic I posted on this thread from a book, if you can get it to load. It's chronic chelitis, only my sow's mouth got much worse than that left alone or on systemic (oral) antibiotics alone. It seemed that the oral antibiotics didn't get to the affected area.
I used Methylene Blue. It's sold in pharmacies for human mouth sores. It helped the sore dry and my vet couldn't find anything about toxicity. I just dabbed a tiny amount on the sore twice a day.
This is from the material safety data sheet (MSDS):
EFFECTS OF OVEREXPOSURE: Skin rash, headache, nausea, eye,
nose and throat irritation.
ROUTE(S) OF ENTRY/EMERGENCY AND FIRST AID PROCEDURES:
EYE: Irrigate immediately with water for 15 minutes. Call
SKIN: Flush with water immediately.
BREATH: Move to fresh air. Give artificial respiration if
needed. Call physician.
INGESTION: Give several glasses of milk. Call physician.
Thank you all for the great advice. I learn so much here, and it is so valuable to me b/c the internet gp community and a couple of distant rescues are my only resources aside from a one-hour drive to the vet. And I just hate to put them through that if it's not necessary. So as always, your help is much appreciated! I will get the Methylene Blue tonight.