Sully's a little under the weather, or, I'm a hypochondriac.

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Post   » Thu Sep 07, 2006 12:18 pm

Yet again I'm stuck elsewhere while Diana deals with this on her own. At least I'll be home this evening.

Thinking about our piggie constantly...

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Post   » Thu Sep 07, 2006 12:30 pm

You guys, you're in my prayers. You don't deserve this, you've been through so much already. These boys are so lucky to have such excellend caregivers.

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Post   » Thu Sep 07, 2006 12:55 pm


Actually, there was a stone, but he passed it. A stone the size of a BB, and he passed it.

Perhaps Shilintong + high dose Metacam (0.8cc/day) does the trick?

He was bleeding and seemed blocked, so Dr. Miller thought the stone was still in there; she opened him up, cleaned him out, but could find no stone. Diana searched the cage, and there it was.

Poor little guy. A human passing a BB sized stone is usually on Versed and Morphine. All he had was the equivalent of Ibuprofen.

Sully is recovering. If Gilbert checks out in two weeks (the two stones he had may have been passed), then I think we can start to think about Shilintong and Metacam as a helpful stone combination.


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Post   » Thu Sep 07, 2006 1:06 pm

Well shoot! This was a second surgery on these boys where the stone wasn't present after seeing it on xray right? Ugh!!!!

I am glad she found the stone so it can still be sent in. But OUCH!! Poor little guy. That's a pretty big stone to pass.

Maybe the Metacam helps relax things enough so it can be passed??


Post   » Thu Sep 07, 2006 1:15 pm

I'm home with Sully. He's doing well. Because his bladder was so gigantic (more than twice the size of a normal bladder), the vet only had to do a tiny incision to find it, so he should have a relatively easy recovery. She said she found lots of big sludgy clots, and she cleaned all of them out. We can't believe he passed it. I took a picture of it, and it's as wide as the year printed on a penny. I'll try to upload it this afternoon.

I need to get the cage situated and then go pick up his TMS.

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Post   » Thu Sep 07, 2006 1:16 pm

Holy cow. He passed a stone that large?? Wow. Let's hope Gilbert passed his as well so that the Metacam & Shilington can be used to prevent multiple surgeries. That would be great.

Gilbert, Sully (and Henry for support), and the care you provide I'm sure will help a lot of other little piggies out there.

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Post   » Thu Sep 07, 2006 1:46 pm

I'm surprised too. Usually males have a really tough time because their urethras are narrower and it is much less likely for them to pass a stone. Swannie's sow passed a stone too.

I am guessing that the pain medication helped also relax things to aid in passing the stone.

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Post   » Thu Sep 07, 2006 1:57 pm

It's a claim that use of Shilintong relaxes the urethra.

Have you told your vets you are using the Shilintong?

If this stuff really has an affect on stones then they need to do some official studies!

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Post   » Thu Sep 07, 2006 2:30 pm

Woo hoo! I'm so glad he's ok and feeling good. I was scared to click on this thread.


Post   » Thu Sep 07, 2006 3:10 pm

When I handed the stone to the vet, she looked at it and shook her head. It shouldn't have been possible.

This morning around 5:30 a.m., Jim gave Sully .9 mL of metacam and shilintong.

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Post   » Thu Sep 07, 2006 3:37 pm

It shouldn't have been possible.

Well you and Jim have done everything possible to facilitate the best results. Not to mention, miracles do happen. ;)

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Post   » Thu Sep 07, 2006 4:03 pm

Now the big sigh of relief and a deep breath. So glad your little men are past this one hopefully. Will wait to hear how recovery goes. I know the Shilintong really helped Rod and if he hadn't developed jaw issues he might have been fine. He quit squeaking after a time on S. and we also added the Calcium citrate and of course Metacam. Hope you both are recovering as well. Sleep deprivation, the stress of worry and taking care of them takes its toll!


Post   » Thu Sep 07, 2006 5:03 pm

Sleep deprivation, the stress of worry and taking care of them takes its toll!

Tell me about it. I've been too jittery to sleep. Gilbert and Henry paced the cage until I brought Sully home. Gilbert, Henry and Sully exchanged some chuts and burbles, and then they all went off to nap.

Maybe I should get myself a cuddle cup.


Post   » Thu Sep 07, 2006 5:12 pm

Cuddle cup sounds good to me! The nights I spent up with Roxy recently I sure could have done with one too!

So glad to hear your little guy got through the surgery ok, I have to admit it brought tears to my eyes just thinking about passing a stone that size. Hope he remains comfortable and things improve over the next few days.

Best wishes.

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Post   » Thu Sep 07, 2006 5:40 pm

Oh, my. I am so glad he passed that stone. Poor boy!


Post   » Thu Sep 07, 2006 6:42 pm

Okay, here are the pictures. Forgive the fact that we don't have the ability to zoom in with the digital camera:





Post   » Thu Sep 07, 2006 6:43 pm

What's really sad is that I just realized I named all of these images Gilbert's stones instead of Sully's. *sigh*


Post   » Thu Sep 07, 2006 9:31 pm

My goodness, I can't believe he passed a stone that big. What a tough guy! I hope he continues to do well.

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Post   » Thu Sep 07, 2006 9:34 pm

Ouch! Poor baby!


Post   » Thu Sep 07, 2006 10:15 pm

He's doing pretty well. He has come out to munch hay and lettuce. He's producing poop and pee. I brought him upstairs on a thick folded up towel and a heat pack and he napped and watched episodes of the Simpsons on DVD with me for about an hour. He was lying on his side, stretched out, pretty comfortable.

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