Please Help! my 5 day old orphaned guinea pig refuses to eat

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ellissian

Post   » Mon Jan 22, 2007 11:41 am


unfortunately my guinea pig was put to sleep when her five babies were 2 days old. They were all coping with life without her but today the runt of the litter has barely ate anything it is very weak and tired but can still manage to talk and move around. It has lost alot of weight and i dont know what to do as i desperately want to save this tiny baby!!! I love it so much! I have another sow who is due to give birth in the next couple to days who im sure will take the runt on as her own as she has washed it but she wont tolerate it trying to suckle and snuggle in at the moment i hoping after her own birth she will. In the mean while what can i do to keep this precious baby alive

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Mum
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Post   » Mon Jan 22, 2007 11:47 am


If a baby has 'lost a lot of weight' then you've got very serious problems, as you know.

How much exactly has the baby lost?

Why was mom put to sleep? (In case there's any connection to the baby's problems).

Baby guinea pigs can be handfed very, very carefully: you'll need to get some special herbivore handfeeding forumla (here we use Oxbow Critical Care) and a 1cc syringe with the restrictive tip cut off:

http://www.guinealynx.info/handfeeding.html

Be sure you push the syringe gently to the back molars and try not to aspirate the baby. After feeding you have to gently massage the baby's butt with a warm washcloth, much as his mother would do, to ensure the baby poops.

Babies will sometimes eat Critical Care from a bowl or a spoon. Be sure all the babies have access to high quality pellets (preferably alfalfa), Critical Care, unlimited timothy hay, and small amounts of fresh veggies.

How did you come to have two pregnant sows?

Are you weighing all the other babies daily?

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ellissian

Post   » Mon Jan 22, 2007 12:01 pm


after the birth of the 5 babies my emmy was the perfect mother to them but she started to drool the day after and initially thought she had toxemia which i had read was often fatal. She kept trying to eat and drink so i took her to vets which found she had some how inhaled food into her lungs and thought the kindest thing to do was put her sleep, it was so distressing knowing her 5 babies were orphans at two days old she was only 9 months herself. i know this site does not endorse feeding guinea pigs milk but it was the only thing they would take i have tried pellet slurry at every feed but none of them will eat it i have also mixed ground vegetable to it. if these babies were not offered the milk they would all die. i have been feeding them every two hours to you think i should feed the runt more often whould that help?

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ellissian

Post   » Mon Jan 22, 2007 12:04 pm


i forgot to mention the scales i have only do grams in hundreds to its very hard to tell how much weight it has lost. i suspect they may have been born slightly premature as there nails were white is this correct? I have only had one previous litter in the past and even the runt of that litter was bigger than all of these 5 new babies

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Lynx
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Post   » Mon Jan 22, 2007 12:06 pm


The milk may be part of the problem.

You have to read the hand feeding info about pups and feed him. www.guinealynx.info/handfeeding.html

A vet may also be able to help.

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ellissian

Post   » Mon Jan 22, 2007 12:10 pm


with all repect for the work vets do i do not rate my vets at all when it comes to care of guinea pigs i find her very heartless and does not know enough about guinea pigs to give the correct care. If you are a cat or a dog your ok but a guinea pig no! thats why i would rather take advice from people like yourselves. I can understand what you are saying about the milk but they will not take anything else i have tried very hard for them to take critical care i couldnt just watch them starve to death so thats why i gave them milk

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Post   » Mon Jan 22, 2007 12:13 pm


If you're going to post here, ellissian, please use proper capitalization and punchtuation. Your posts are not easy to read.

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ellissian

Post   » Mon Jan 22, 2007 12:14 pm


Sorry Im just rushing things cause I need help really quickly.

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Post   » Mon Jan 22, 2007 12:19 pm


You need to do what I suggested in my first post.

This is probably the only way you'll be able to save their lives. If you continue to feed milk they'll probably all die - guinea pigs are herbivores and can't digest milk products properly.

You didn't answer my question - how did you end up with two pregnant sows?

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sus4rabbitsnpigs

Post   » Mon Jan 22, 2007 1:54 pm


She probably bred them.

It sounds like your sow had teeth problems i.e. drooling and trying to eat. Her problems may have been treatable.

Here http://www.guinealynx.info/handfeeding.html#pups

You really need to get a scale and weigh the babies daily. The other pregnant sow doesn't have any milk and won't until after she gives birth.

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ellissian

Post   » Mon Jan 22, 2007 2:08 pm


My sow did not have a tooth problem, I already stated the vet said she had inhaled food into her lungs. No I did not breed my guinea pigs I know what dangers and complications there can be. I am asking for advice on how to help a tiny 5 day old orphaned guinea pig live not to be interrogated or be told off for my grammar. At the end of the day there is a life at stake here so please drop the snide comments I thought you people really really cared for guinea pigs telling me to feed critical care when Ive already said I have the babies mouth is prised shut if I use anymore force I will probably kill it through the stress it under. Im also well aware that the other pregnent sow will not produce milk until it has given birth, I only wanted help not all these remarks

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Post   » Mon Jan 22, 2007 2:11 pm


I've give you advice and given you the handfeeding link. This is what you must do if your baby is going to have a chance at surviving.

You must learn how to handfeed your animals if they're sick. If not, then you must take the baby to a vet so that the vet can show you how to do it.

There is indeed a risk of aspiration - but ONLY with handfeeding. This is why you have to go very, very slowly once you get the 1cc syringe in. You can't use a bigger syringe than a 1cc though.

Can you get some proper herbivore handfeeding formula today?

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sus4rabbitsnpigs

Post   » Mon Jan 22, 2007 2:14 pm


It makes it much harder for us to read posts if they are not written legibly, so we may miss something. It's in the rules when you signed up.

Put some critical care or pellet mash in a shallow bowl in the cage if you don't want to hand feed and see if he will eat that on his own.

How were you feeding them the milk?

You asked for advice and that's all we can tell you - weigh the baby in a kitchen scale to see if he is losing weight and try to get food into them.

Do you have alfalfa hay? He may nibble on that.

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ellissian

Post   » Mon Jan 22, 2007 2:20 pm


Sorry mum Im not getting at you it was other comments. I already know how to hand feed guinea pigs Ive done it lots of times when my other guinea pigs have been ill. Ive even hand reared a runt before its just that this runt is so tiny and weak (well it certainly finds some strength when I try to feed it), I didnt know whether anyone knew of anything else I could do to help. I have managed to get a small amount of critical care into it. How often should I be feeding the critical care. I think its best chance of survival is being fostered by the other sow after it gives birth

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sus4rabbitsnpigs

Post   » Mon Jan 22, 2007 2:22 pm


Are you weighing him? You need to weigh him and handfeed accordingly. Orphans usually need to be fed every hour though.

Some runts thrive with special care, but some just don't make it.

Put a shallow bowl of CC in the cage and see if he will eat it or offer it with a spoon. Do you have pedialyte or anything like that?

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Post   » Mon Jan 22, 2007 2:24 pm


I would try and get perhaps a couple of ccs into the baby every hour or two. And do leave some in a dish in case he gets the idea.

Don't forget to massage his butt afterwards.

Are you using a 1cc syringe?

I agree that fostering by another sow is the best shot, but unfortunately this baby may not make it that far.

You really need a digital kitchen scale to start weighing all the babies daily. I'm surprised the others are doing ok if there mom died when they were only two days old.

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ellissian

Post   » Mon Jan 22, 2007 2:24 pm


all the baby wants to do is sleep, thats all its done really since it was born its siblings sleep virually all day as well. It doesnt show interest in hay or any feed it may take a little nibble when I hand feed it but nothing more. Poor baby!

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Mum
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Post   » Mon Jan 22, 2007 2:25 pm


ll the baby wants to do is sleep, thats all its done really since it was born its siblings sleep virually all day as well.
I'm sorry to say it but you're going to lose them all if you don't start being aggressive about the handfeeding. Even then, you may not be successful - but please do NOT continue to give them milk or any other food apart from critical care and hay.

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sus4rabbitsnpigs

Post   » Mon Jan 22, 2007 2:29 pm


How did the vet conclude the sow had food in her lungs?

I have to agree with Mum. You need to start weighing the babies too. Are you feeding alfalfa hay?

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ellissian

Post   » Mon Jan 22, 2007 2:31 pm


Im feeding him from a medicine spoon as he is so small I dont want anything getting into his lungs. I dont think he will make it either. The pregnant sow pelvic bones parted yesterday so Im hoping the birth is very soon. Im suprised the other 4 babies are doing so well they have all put weight on and grown slightly, they are very alert when they do wake up, two of them were running and popcorning this afternoon. Ive got the baby under my top to keep him warm and at least I can see if he takes a turn for the worse

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