WalterP's Front Teeth Look Bad

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Athena
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Post   » Wed Nov 28, 2007 11:45 pm


WalterP is Six years old. My son noticed his teeth like this last night. We think he is eating normally. He eats veggies when we put them in. He has not lost weight.

(My son's fingers are stained from black food coloring--we just decorated cookies.)


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Lynx
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Post   » Thu Nov 29, 2007 2:16 pm


I would start weighing your pig regularly (maybe even once a day if you are concerned) and keep on eye on the tooth. It may have been broken and grew back poorly and may need a while before it resolves to a normal color.

Look for any swelling or odor that might indicate an active infection (and a required vet visit). An xray would certainly give you more info. I take it I can add this pic to the board?

Talishan
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Post   » Thu Nov 29, 2007 4:43 pm


We have two with something very similar, and both are in the +- 4 1/2 -- 5 year range.

As Lynx mentions, watch his weight. Watch to see if it grows out normally, or continues to grow funky. In my experience if his weight stays stable and there's no evidence of infection, it's not a problem.

We suspect both of ours have suffered root damage from ... we don't know what (they have never been dropped), but suspect overactive bar chewing. Yet our other bar chewers haven't shown this.

Age? Genetic? Don't know.

Erin8607
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Post   » Fri Nov 30, 2007 9:51 pm


If I remember correctly, one of the pigs adopted from me lost a bottom incisor. It grew back funky and yellow like that, then fell out and never returned. She did fine with the three teeth.

Poor Walter. Give him a smooch for me.

GetShelly
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Post   » Fri Nov 30, 2007 11:08 pm


Is it me or do the bottom teeth look long?

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Athena
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Post   » Fri Nov 30, 2007 11:36 pm


The do look long, maybe to fill in the space because the tops are short? His weight is staying the same and no foul odor.

Yes, Lynx, you can use the picture.

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Lynx
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Post   » Sat Dec 01, 2007 11:47 am


Thanks!

Talishan
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Post   » Sat Dec 01, 2007 3:51 pm


Yup. The bottom incisors look long, the top right is slanted, and the bottoms are slanted in a V shape.

Having said all that: if weight okay and no bad odor => leave alone in my experience.

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Athena
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Post   » Sun Jan 27, 2008 1:10 pm


I am worried about WalterP. His teeth still look the same but now the discolored one has blood at the very top at his gum. He also has a runny nose. For the last three days he has been hanging out with Pearly and Nigella under the lean-to, which is a heated area. He didn't used to sit over there with them. He is also, on occasion, making an unusual whimpering beep noise--I wonder if that's when his bad tooth gets bumped?

His eating has been normal, though, until this morning when he didn't eat any veggies.

I have given him metacam, which I have for Pearly with her tumor. I do have baytril but can't remember the dose to give.

I'm guessing you are all going to say go to the vet so I'm calling them after I post this.

I've been so concerned and taking care of Pearly with her tumor that I fear I've missed WP's problems...

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Wheekers3

Post   » Sun Jan 27, 2008 1:37 pm


Is the discolored tooth still firmly there? It may be broken or abcessed above the gum line. See if it is loose in any way. It may be causeing sinus trouble.

I had a pig with chronic brittle discolored teeth. They would break off and re-grow - still discolored. My Vet wasn't much help. He did try to trim the tooth and it fell out once. After that there was a tooth losing cycle. It would grow to the proper length and then break and fall out. He would be painful when it was broken and the gum was the only thing holding it in.

Weigh weekly and hand feed smaller bits of lettuce etc.

A knowledgeable Vet consult would be ideal.

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Lynx
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Post   » Sun Jan 27, 2008 2:15 pm


How is his weight? It sounds like he's in pain if he is wimpering occasionally. I would give some pain meds and hand feed if it seems he is not eating enough.

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Mum
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Post   » Sun Jan 27, 2008 2:28 pm


He also has a runny nose.
I'd get him to a vet asap and see if he has a URI.

This may be nothing to do with the tooth.

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Athena
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Post   » Sun Jan 27, 2008 5:12 pm


I took him to the vet for an emergency appointment soon after I posted. Dr. Derenzi thinks the tooth is infected. She also saw that his back molars are a bit pointy but she and I both prefer to treat the infection and see how he does. He is 6 years old and I don't want to put him under anesthesia if we don't have to.

I had given him some Metacam around 10AM and while waiting for the doctor he started eating a bit of hay around 11:15AM so I do think he had been in pain. She prescribed trimeth/sulfa for the infection and gave me more metacam.

I'm supposed to make sure he is drinking and if not, give sub-Qs. I have critical care to hand-feed. Yes, his weight is down. He was only 760g :-( ...strange because he has been eating. This morning was the first time he did not eat veggies and my son was the one who noticed late last night that WP's tooth was bloody at the gumline.

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Athena
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Post   » Mon Jan 28, 2008 1:07 pm


WP Is worse today. His nose is so stuffed and runny and I'm scared. I have Baytril from a previous pig. How much is a dose for a 760g pig? Can I give him both the Baytril and the Sulfa?

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AliceMcmallis
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Post   » Mon Jan 28, 2008 1:55 pm


Maybe you should get an x-ray done to see if there is an infection that's spread from the tooth? If he's had an infection brewing in there since December, it may have spread significantly inside the bone, etc.

A 10 mg/kg dose of baytril for a 760 gram pig would be 0.76 mg. What is the concentration of the baytril you have?

It might take a little while for the sulfa to take effect though, so I would speak to the vet before giving him anything else.

I'm not sure if you can give both baytril and sulfatrim at the time, sorry.

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AliceMcmallis
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Post   » Mon Jan 28, 2008 1:57 pm


How much weight has he lost since you saw his tooth originally?

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Lynx
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Post   » Mon Jan 28, 2008 3:17 pm


Can you call your vet, Athena? I'm so sorry he is having such difficulties.

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Athena
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Post   » Mon Jan 28, 2008 5:11 pm


I called the vet and the only cavy vet on call is the least liked around here. But he did call me back and tell me to keep WP's nose clean. I had to go to an appointment so I couldn't take WP in a steamy shower room so I left a humidifier on and a heater on low.

I just got back and he seems even worse. He is now extremely BLOATED. What is up with that!? I'm calling the vet again.

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PinkRufus
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Post   » Mon Jan 28, 2008 5:23 pm


He could have swallowed a lot of air trying to breath. This is scary, I hope you can get him into the vet.

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Piggster

Post   » Mon Jan 28, 2008 5:49 pm


Athena, how about Dr Derenzi, Dr Koga, or Dr Jane Johnson? They are the next best as I know Dr Nakamura is off today (Monday). If any of these three are there today they should know what to do. It sounds like he may need to be on oxygen or require lasix.

Thinking good thoughts for WalterP. I hope he'll be OK.

Edited to add I didn't see that part about bloat - I would call Adobe back ASAP.

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