Need help choosing the best hay

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Post   » Mon Mar 10, 2008 11:08 pm

Before joining this site I always thought the Kaytee hay from Wal Mart was good hay to feed them. But after reading up I realize that it's not so great. It's chock full of stalks, that I usually end up stabbing myself on and it just doesn't look healthy.

Where do you get your hay from? Our local petstore sells the same stuff, just in larger bags. We want something more nutritious at a nice price for our pigs. They go through a ton of it so we're thinking a 45lb bag would be great for us.

So, I was looking at the Kleenmama's Hayloft site. Has anyone used this site? I am assuming so since it's a link off Guinea Lynx. What is the shipping like?

What do you buy, 1st cut, 2nd cut, 3rd cut? I'm confused on that bit.

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Post   » Mon Mar 10, 2008 11:10 pm

I only feed my pigs Kleenmama's hay.

If you do a search for Kleenmama, you'll find a ton of threads on how wonderful we all consider this hay.

Go to and see how much it will be to be shipped to you. For me, in California, the total works out at about $1/lb - weigh cheaper than I can buy packaged hay here.

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Post   » Mon Mar 10, 2008 11:13 pm

A big wheek for kleenmama's hay. There's even a thread devoted to it!

My boys love the 3rd cutting. It's soft, barely any hard stalks, just right for my pigs.

Once you order from her, you'll never want to use any other hay.

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Bugs Mom

Post   » Mon Mar 10, 2008 11:16 pm

KM's hay rocks! It's the best stuff out there. I also "serve" the 3rd cut timothy. KM's has many fans here.

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Post   » Mon Mar 10, 2008 11:21 pm

Should I just get Timothy hay or a mix of Timothy and Bluegrass?

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one pig at a time.

Post   » Mon Mar 10, 2008 11:25 pm

Piggies appreciate having a variety of hay. I would get the 1/2 and 1/2.

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Post   » Mon Mar 10, 2008 11:26 pm

Wow...shipping is expensive!

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Bugs Mom

Post   » Mon Mar 10, 2008 11:31 pm

Be sure you figure the actual cost of say KM's hay shipped as opposed to Oxbow or one of the better hays. Compare pounds to the cost of little bags.

Unfortunately, everyones shipping has gone up, not just hay prices.

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Post   » Mon Mar 10, 2008 11:32 pm

Yup, shipping IS expensive but like Bugs Mom said, figure out the price per pound. It's likely cheaper than the kaytee when you figure it up that way.

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Post   » Mon Mar 10, 2008 11:34 pm

KM's hay is amazing. I got my first 25 pounder on Saturday, and the boys LOVE it. I compared oz for oz (including shipping) and my Oxbow was costing 5x more per ounce, and I had it shipped from WA to IA, along with 10 pounds of Timothy pellets, which the boys are also heartily recommending!

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Post   » Mon Mar 10, 2008 11:58 pm

A couple of times over the past year, I planned badly and didn't reorder from KM before my stock ran out. You don't realize how wonderful her stuff is until you have to fall back on something like Kaytee again. The pigs rebelled!!! I have used a mix of Timothy and Bluegrass in the past. Seriously, if you calculate what you're paying on per oz. basis for KMs including shipping versus other alternatives, you realize how cost effective it is. And your pigs will be in heaven!

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Post   » Tue Mar 11, 2008 12:25 am

I live in Massachusetts, so the shipping must be about the same. Yes it does cost a lot to ship, actually more than the hay itself. But I have found it is still cheaper than buying from a pet store and the quality of the 3rd cut is awesome. The hay from the pet store is about $5.00 a pound, KM's is about $1.00 a pound, even with the shipping cost it is still less than the pet store.

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Post   » Tue Mar 11, 2008 12:47 am

If you break the shipping charges down, it is often cheaper or about the same at least. Buying in bulk does save in the long run.

You can also check your local feed stores. Quality varies though. KM is pretty consistently good.

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Post   » Tue Mar 11, 2008 3:23 am

Sherry, KM's pellets are great, too. Our boys love them. As I live in the UK, I can't get the hay (custom rules and such), but the pellets are worth the shipping. Just wait 'til you smell a handful of good hay! The difference is amazing. (I get Oxbow now and used to get LM Farms.)

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Post   » Tue Mar 11, 2008 7:19 am

We use KM's bluegrass here. When I have juggled money/time right and we have to use Kaytee, so much hay goes to waste PLUS its horrible hard on my lungs.

The cost, averaged in is worth the shipping. I buy the 45 pound boxes. I just got mine yesterday, the last time I bought was the beginning of November.

We go through hay.

The biggest challenge is watching the lump of money leave the first time, instead of smaller (but more in the end) lumps every week. Once you wrap your mind around it - its not so startling.

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Post   » Tue Mar 11, 2008 7:52 am

You may try a mix, but be prepared that your pigs may only like one or the other. Anyone in MA want a pound or two of bluegrass I have left? (otherwise, I plan to bring it to the pignic). My girls won't touch it since Kleenmama's Timothy.

Even in MA, with all of the shipping costs, Kleenmama's hay is cheaper by the pound than to buy Oxbow in the bag. Even from the feed shop. You may also want to look at Sweet Meadow Hay. Their hay is not consistently as fantastic as Kleenmama's, but if you order it directly from them, in bulk, it's a bit cheaper. You can look up their web site. I've had some good Timothy and orchard grass from them.

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Post   » Tue Mar 11, 2008 8:30 am

Don't forget that even a "smaller" order of km's hay is a larger amount than what you would get in a bag from the store.

I hated having to go and buy those small, expensive bags of crappy hay (and yes, alot would go to waste). I only have two pigs, yet ordered enough hay this time from kleenmama to get us through the summer.

It is much cheaper for me in the long run, plus my boys would never forgive me if I didn't provide them a big ol' fluffy pile of km's hay every day.

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Post   » Tue Mar 11, 2008 8:38 am

I buy nice hay from a feedstore or from a horse farmer. 10-13 $ for a 65 lb bale. This last batch is so nice, green and smells so sweet and fresh.

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Post   » Tue Mar 11, 2008 9:17 am

We are having major hay problems here. We're having to be very careful just to make sure the horses have enough to get them through until the growing season starts again. I'm glad I can get km's hay for the pigs.

People have had their roundbales (300lbs at least) stolen right out of their fields.

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Post   » Tue Mar 11, 2008 9:40 am

We are running out of KM's hay here and it's a crisis! CJ keeps staring up at me with this totally sad look when the hay loft is empty.

I got 3rd cut Timothy and KM helpfully gave me some bluegrass to try on my boys. They like Timothy and refuse the bluegrass! I'd buy small quantites of each kind and see what yours like.

Be prepared for some yelling when you oppen the box. My boys are SO EXCITED when the new box arrives and I cut it oppen for the first time!

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