Help (urgent) - urine scald-type occurance

Gez

Post   » Thu Apr 17, 2003 5:55 pm


I just picked up Splat, my 3.5 year old abby for a bed time cuddle and noticed the fur around her bottom was matted and stuck together. Upon further investigation I found that the fur was falling out and stuck together with what seems to be chrystaline urine. I've bathed the area with warm water to get rid of most of the gunk, then bathed it with salt water, as it seems raw and I was worried about infection, then I rinsed the area again with warm water as I didn't want salt crystals adding to the problem. Splat was protesting throughout, and evidently her genitals are painful and raw. After drying her off I gave her a treat, she has a pee, and wheeked a little as she did. I assume this is because of her genitals rather than a UTI. I moved her away from the pee to stop her sitting in it and aggravating the problem, but she turned around and drank the pee! I've never seen or heard of this before, so I thought she may be dehydrated with it being so warm lately (which would make her urine more concentrated), so I made her take about 5ccs of water, and them came here to ask for help.
Is there anything I can put on her bottom to ease it? Vaseline? Savlon? (bearing in mind it's 11 o clock at night)
Should I clip her hair around her bottom to stop this happening again?
Why did it happen in the first place?

I need to make her comforatble, and of course I feel so guilty! Help!

Gez

Post   » Thu Apr 17, 2003 6:30 pm


People, my parents are forcing me to go to bed. I need to know if theres anything I can do NOW!!!

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lisam

Post   » Thu Apr 17, 2003 7:21 pm


I think I would bed her on some towels. I don't like using vaseline. Perhaps an antibiotic ointment? I don't know why she would drink her own pee. Go ahead and trim the hair around there really short.

Sorry I can't help more, go to bed and check back in the morning, and someone else will have some answers for you, hopefully!

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Becky

Post   » Thu Apr 17, 2003 8:06 pm


Urine scald often accompanies an UTI. You might want to look into that aspect of it.

Yes, clip the hair really short around her genitals. When Cookie had god-awful urine scald, my vet said to use baby diaper rash cream--Desonix (sp?) It worked great.

Is she a teddy, by any chance? Cotten, my teddy, get that clumped, matted blob all of the time.

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Lynx
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Post   » Thu Apr 17, 2003 8:15 pm


Ditto on the possible UTI. I had a recent recommendation to use Preparation H on Nina's foot after soaking and drying. I would think if you dried off the area thoroughly, Preparation H would be very soothing until you can get to the vet.

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Post   » Thu Apr 17, 2003 8:18 pm


What does urine scald look like?

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Lynx
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Post   » Thu Apr 17, 2003 8:21 pm


I am guessing sore, perhaps raw skin. I don't know if there would be a rash. It would most likely smell bad.

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Becky

Post   » Thu Apr 17, 2003 8:32 pm


Here's a picture of Cookie's urine scald.

www.geocities.com/becca19522002/piggyphotos.html

And yes, it smells a bit like burnt bacon.


[Link to pics here:

www.guinealynx.info/photos/becky-1.jpg
www.guinealynx.info/photos/becky-2.jpg

Not displayed because they are pretty graphic -- Lynx]

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Lynx
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Post   » Thu Apr 17, 2003 9:13 pm


Grrr. Unavailable. If you mail it to me, I can post it on the board.

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Becky

Post   » Thu Apr 17, 2003 9:48 pm


OK--just emailed you two pix.

kleenmama
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Post   » Fri Apr 18, 2003 12:23 am


Pebbles gets the same thing each time she gets a UTI. Her butt looks wet, but actually I think it might be serum from the skin because it's higher on her butt than urine can reach, although it does start right above her genitals. The hair also gets very stiff.

I use hibitane soap twice a day to wash with, and then put on some Bactroban ointment. Both I got from Pinta's vet in Canada, not sure if either are available here but I swear by them.
After I clean this crystally stuff off her butt, she loses all her hair in that area. But eventually it goes away with this treatment (about 3 days) and her hair grows back in.

She has had this twice, both times after finishing a round of AB's for UTI. I always thought it was the AB that changed the Ph of the urine, because this never happens until about 4-5 days off the AB.

Gez

Post   » Fri Apr 18, 2003 5:01 am


Splats butt isn't as bad as becky's pictures, but it looks similar. I don't have any animal AB creams to hand, or nappy rash cream, but I do have human antibiotic cream (Savlon). I'm sure somewhere I have E45 cream for 'itchy skin' as well - which would be best? (Assuming the human cream is safe).
I will keep an eye on her for other UTI symptoms, although I believe the cause of this episode was that they've both scraped out an area in the hutch where they've moved all of the bedding away, and just lie on the wood, probably because it's so warm lately, and they've been peeing and pooping in it then lying there.
The crystals and gunk I removed last night smelled like ammonia. I've yet to read the UTI page to see if that's a symptom or if it's just becaue it was icky stale urine.
Even though it's Good Friday, I'm sure the supermarket will be open. I need to get veggies anyway, so shall I get nappy rash cream too? Or just use the Savlon or E45 I've already mentioned?
I think tomorrow all of the shops will be open, and I think the local petshop (a good petshop - *shock*) has some antiseptic cream with tea tree oil that I've used before for my rabbit when he got nicks and cuts. Will that be better? Worse? The same?
I'm going to clip her fur after I've given them their brekkie, then make sure they have another cool place to lie rateher than in the hutch, on the wood.
And she's an abby by the way, so I suppose thats why she got all the yucky stuff in her fur, when my other pig whose a shorthair didn't.

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Lynx
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Post   » Fri Apr 18, 2003 7:23 am


Becky, thanks for the pics. They are pretty graphic so I just added a link in the post you originally put up with the link to geocities. It looks extremely painful. There is a drying product, I think called domoboro (or something similar) that is used on urine scald in rabbits.

You really still have to consider a urinary tract infection. These scalds are more likely to happen with a constant dribble of urine. Only antibiotics will take care of a UTI.

kleenmama
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Post   » Fri Apr 18, 2003 9:23 am


Pebbles has never looked like that! She just has a spot on her hip/butt about the size of a quarter that looks consistently wet, but it is stiff! When I wash her, the hair comes out in clumps, leaving her skin pink and bald. The last time she had it, it moved up her butt cheek until an area about the size of a silver dollar was involved, then slowly the hair started growing back in.
Hmm, I'll have to take pics if this happens again.

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Becky

Post   » Fri Apr 18, 2003 10:02 am


Yes, they are pretty graphic. I really can't say that it seemed to bother her much, though. Also, the picture was taken after the vet shaved the area, I believe, so it might look worse than it was.

I tried the domoboro, but I'm such a directions idiot, that it never really worked too well for me.

The diaper rash cream cleared Cookie's scald in less than two days. It was pretty amazing.

Gez, I must say, I never felt like it had an amonia smell. I'm wondering if you're smelling the urine on the wood instead of the pig?

I agree about checking for an UTI. Cookie dribbled urine for months before her urine scald developed.

Gez

Post   » Fri Apr 18, 2003 1:17 pm


I just assumed the ammonia smell was because it was pee in her fur. It definatly came from her though, because I only really smelled it when I was cleaning her in the kitchen. That's why I thought she might be dehydrated and having more concentrated urine. I'm gonna check out the UTI pages here to see if she has other symptoms.

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JudiL-MetroGPRescue
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Post   » Fri Apr 18, 2003 1:58 pm


Works wonders. Its fabulous for urine scald. I had to use it for 2 years on a disabled bunny. Took the burn away and the inflammation.

OUCH!! That looks really bad!!! You need to keep the area very clean and yes, I used Domburo pads on my rabbit as well as the preparation-H.

This most certainly is not something to fool around with. She needs a vet appt.. please?

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Lynx
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Post   » Fri Apr 18, 2003 2:18 pm


Works wonders. Its fabulous for urine scald. I had to use it for 2 years on a disabled bunny. Took the burn away and the inflammation.

Are you referring to diaper rash cream? Or the domoboro?

Gez

Post   » Fri Apr 18, 2003 2:23 pm


Lynx, is there a list of UTI symptoms anywhere?

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Lynx
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Post   » Fri Apr 18, 2003 2:31 pm


Squeeking while peeing, blood in pee, leaking urine -- a vet can check for blood in pee. Often a vet will try to clear these up with an antibiotic and if it doesn't work, do an xray to check for stones. Bactrim is a good drug to use and may need to be given for several weeks while healing.

When we humans have a urinary tract infection, it hurts to pee (burns) and there can be blood. Urine is checked to see if there is an infection present.

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