Scruffles medical thread

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Lynx
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Post   » Thu Feb 04, 2010 4:31 pm


That's a pretty big stone!

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Mapleowl18
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Post   » Thu Feb 04, 2010 4:43 pm


Ditto to that mmedows. I always think oww oww oww as I look at them.

No wonder she was cranky.

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Brainerror

Post   » Thu Feb 04, 2010 5:16 pm


I know :( she must have been in so much discomfort. I only felt around that area because she strained just the once when she pooped & discovered that lump.

I need some advice. We've been syringe feeding her water & CC, she's eating hay, carrot, lettuce with a little encouragement (she doesn't eat unless I stroke her constantly), but she still hasn't peed.

She's been home since 7pm, it's now 22:15. We're quite worried she isn't peeing.

Do we need to take her back? or is it normal to take a while after just an invasive procedure?

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Brainerror

Post   » Thu Feb 04, 2010 5:39 pm


woop! she just did a massive clear pee!

Tracis
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Post   » Thu Feb 04, 2010 6:52 pm


That is great!

Sending good thoughts for Scruffles, and I hope she continues to do well. No-more-stones wishes, too.

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Lynx
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Post   » Thu Feb 04, 2010 8:41 pm


Good to hear she peed! Recovery from surgery can be nerve wracking.

Talishan
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Post   » Thu Feb 04, 2010 10:38 pm


Oh, thank goodness ... both for the procedure and the pee.

Her urethra was probably quite swollen and tender.

Be glad she's a girl. As awful as that stone looks for Scruffles, there's no way your vet could have worked it out of a boy. It sounds as if you have a very good vet.

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Brainerror

Post   » Fri Feb 05, 2010 2:53 am


My vet is pretty good :) I'm lucky to have her. And lucky to have girls otherwise Scruffles would probably not be here today :/

I need a bit of advice regarding her poo. It's still soft and I really want it to harden up so she can poop normally (or at least not lose so much water).

I syringe 20ml of CC into her often as I can (did 2 before I went to bed at 12 last night and another one at half 3 in the morning), plus 15ml of water with pro biotics every time I feed. She eats bits of veggies and I can get hay into her at a painstakingly slow pace (she only chews when I pet her? why?), but her poop stays the same pasty and occasionally watery substance.

She is on an antibiotic called marbocyl, could that cause her stools to not firm up? or do you think it's still stress from yesterday?

Normally she's a super chatty and lively pig, but she's so terribly quiet.
I know some pigs take a while to recover, but it's heartbreaking to see her like this faint shadow of the girl she used to be :(

Any advice would be very welcome (of course I'll do some online research too). thanks guys x

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Brainerror

Post   » Fri Feb 05, 2010 10:32 am


her poop is forming again and semi hard now. I'll just keep doing what I'm doing!

Go team Scruffles!

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Lynx
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Post   » Fri Feb 05, 2010 11:47 am


Good news! Hoping for continued improvement.

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Brainerror

Post   » Fri Feb 05, 2010 4:57 pm


Still doesn't want to eat or drink on her own...here's to another sleepless night

Talishan
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Post   » Fri Feb 05, 2010 8:24 pm


Marbocyl is a chemical relative of Baytril (marbofloxacin, a fluoroquinolone [sp?]). That may be affecting her appetite.

I do not know why they chew when you pet them and stop when you don't. We have several that have done that. Maybe they are imagining gnawing on your hand. ;-)

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Brainerror

Post   » Sat Feb 06, 2010 5:15 am


She'll only be on the marbocyl for 5 days, we're on day 3 so I might as well ride it out I think.

She's a lot perkier today, licks my hands again, talks a lot (although really quietly), but her poop remains pasty. sometimes they form and sometimes it's just blobs. Oh and she's also bitchy to Chewie again.
I had Chewie with her for company during feedings yesterday and they snuggled together (if Chewie wasn't trying to steal the CC!), but this morning scruffles started chatter teething as soon as she saw Chewie come near... Ah..her old self is returning, the joy ;)

She's seperated from the other 2 still because of Squee's lump. She also gained 30g since yesterday even though she's pooping the same amount, if not more.

She is struggling more with feedings now so getting enough in to her is going to be a task today. She also eats bits of hay on her own from time to time and she washed herself :)

Is there anything else I can do to firm up her poop? what about banana? I know it's high in sugar, but it also firms poops or should I just steer clear from that idea?

I just want her cramps and pasty poop to go away so her bits can heal. her urethra looks really sore still and all this poop everywhere isn't helping I'm sure (I do wet wipe her butt regularly though).

She weighs 1,207kg at the moment, more then she's weighed in a few months at least.

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NoCableisSafe

Post   » Sat Feb 06, 2010 8:59 am


Here's a thought no one else has really raised: When I told everyone that Bailey was going on a high dose of Baytril I was warned (extensively *winks*) about antibiotic intolerance.

I also read that in the case of antibiotic intolerance then the antibiotic should be stopped. To me, theoretically speaking not from experience, this means that antibiotic intolerance won't go away until the antibiotic goes away. So, theoretically, Scruffles should go back to 100% poopie output and gorge herself in all your household edibles when she comes off the antibiotic -- if her symptoms are a result of an intolerance to the antibiotic.

I'm not sure if intolerance can be "managed" to a point with giving extra probiotic (as in, an OTT overload of it) to help her improve when you do take her off the AB.

Beyond that, I've got nothing else to suggest.

She has a good weight, she's in the same weight bracket as my boys.

I take fighting back when being force fed as a good sign that they're getting their spunk back. It helps me to continue feeding them even as they get cheeky with the syringe.

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Lynx
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Post   » Sat Feb 06, 2010 9:55 am


See if this page gives you any ideas: gl/diarrhea.html

The usual problem with antibiotics is inappetence. If you have soft poops from the antibiotics, it is because they are also disrupting the digestive system. That can take longer to fix.

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Brainerror

Post   » Sat Feb 06, 2010 1:40 pm


thanks lynx, I did read that page and followed the advice apart from stopping the antibiotics.

NciS:
I did eventually gave her some banana and that worked :) her poops are now almost normal and her appetite is increasing :) I think by tomorrow she should be mostly back to normal.

She's getting feistier by the minute! almost nipped me a few times during feeding.. heh.

She has eaten hay and a few pellets on her own now - hurrah!

Talishan
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Post   » Sat Feb 06, 2010 9:33 pm


Extensively? Moi? ;-)

I wouldn't have recommended the banana, and I would have been wrong. I'm glad she's doing so much better.

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Brainerror

Post   » Sun Feb 07, 2010 6:05 am


To be honest talishan, I wouldn't recommend it either, but my mum used to give me bananas as a kid when I had runny bowels and it would firm things up within hours. that's the only reason I had to try it.

She's driving me nuts though. just gave her some floor time with Chewie, my old girl, to remind her that she's a pig. She did eat some lettuce, pepper and hay when Chewie did, but now it seems like she hates Chewie's guts again. *sigh*

I was going to put Squee separate instead of Scruffles, so Scruffles gets some stimulation, but now I'm not sure.

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Brainerror

Post   » Mon Feb 08, 2010 5:17 am


I can sigh a sigh of relief.
Scruffles just came running out of the pigloo during veggie time :)
Apparently when my OH fed her at 7 this morning she was wheeking for food!

This is such good news as I almost lost it yesterday when I found out she had lost 120g overnight and had runny poo again.

We've stopped the marbocyl as this was going to be her last day on it anyway. She's peeing big pees that are clear and her poops are nice and normal again.

She still acts a bit odd, but hey, so do we when not feeling 100% right?
She's gained a little weight this morning (she was 1,117, she's now 1,130 at 10am).

Finally on the up! mummy can have a bit of a break :) I feel like I can sleep for a week.

Oh and she's still with Chewie which has really helped. Squee doesn't give two wheeks about being on her own o.0
She actually popcorned like crazy when I separated her.

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Brainerror

Post   » Mon Feb 08, 2010 10:37 am


just to show you the difference in Scruffles.

this was her the day after the procedure
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and here she is feeling much brighter in herself :)
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