Collusion/Conspiracy - The Case is Building
- Lynx
- RESIST
Trump will not be able to get out of this. I read a breakdown of recent developments that are clarifying things. So much yet unknown (redacted) and yet to be revealed.
A retired lawyer on the Daily Kos did a summary with lots of links:
Inching Closer to the C-Word. The Cohen Memo Moves The Ball Towards The Collusion Goal Line — A Lot.
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/12/9/1818033/-Inching- ... l-Line-A-Lot
p.s. there has been much discussion over the use of the collusion word vs. the use of the conspiracy word. Whatever you call it now, it will likely assume the more legal term of conspiracy once the important indictments arrive.
They can't happen soon enough.
A retired lawyer on the Daily Kos did a summary with lots of links:
Inching Closer to the C-Word. The Cohen Memo Moves The Ball Towards The Collusion Goal Line — A Lot.
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/12/9/1818033/-Inching- ... l-Line-A-Lot
p.s. there has been much discussion over the use of the collusion word vs. the use of the conspiracy word. Whatever you call it now, it will likely assume the more legal term of conspiracy once the important indictments arrive.
They can't happen soon enough.
- Lynx
- RESIST
I'm adding a very long break down/time line with many links. Seeing everything together is helpful:
Trump Tower Moscow was a much larger deal—and potential crime—than anyone has realized
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/1/27/1828956/-Trump-To ... ed#read-more
Trump Tower Moscow was a much larger deal—and potential crime—than anyone has realized
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/1/27/1828956/-Trump-To ... ed#read-more
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- For the Love of Pigs
I'm in the middle of it (actually the beginning - it's long) - fascinating. Things have gotten so complicated that I'm having trouble keeping track so I'm looking forward to seeing it all pulled together in an easy-to-read format. I've heard several times that all we're (the public) seeing is the tip of the iceberg.
There's a way to get Trump that no one is putting much effort into. Not even the President can overrule the CIA and the NSA when it comes to Security Clearance. Now I'm not a lawyer but I don't think he is breaking the law by demanding someone give it despite the person being vetted not making the grade. The person that actually listens to Trump and pushes it through would be breaking the law.
And no one, not even a sitting president can make enemies of those 2 alphabet agencies when it comes to messing with security clearance. Is there no Democrat with close intelligence ties that can pick up an envelope stuffed with photos and memos from a dead drop in a dark Washington park?
And no one, not even a sitting president can make enemies of those 2 alphabet agencies when it comes to messing with security clearance. Is there no Democrat with close intelligence ties that can pick up an envelope stuffed with photos and memos from a dead drop in a dark Washington park?
A RICO investigation would take a vary long time. Thing is they are going to have to back off some. The Mueller thing turned up nothing and at quite a cost in money manpower and time.
The key is the Security Clearance for Jared Kushner. I have a tiny tiny spec of experience with "ordinary secret" clearance and it is not a fun or quick process, no one circumvents the process, no one but the president. They were demanding Top Secret Compartmentalized for Kushner and he doesn't have a good reason to even have it, they just wanted it - that's frigging everything about Nukes and Spies why would he need that?. It' s not an achievement type thing to go on your library wall. Many people's lives are at stake when it comes to TS clearance. I'm really surprised people haven't jumped on this
The key is the Security Clearance for Jared Kushner. I have a tiny tiny spec of experience with "ordinary secret" clearance and it is not a fun or quick process, no one circumvents the process, no one but the president. They were demanding Top Secret Compartmentalized for Kushner and he doesn't have a good reason to even have it, they just wanted it - that's frigging everything about Nukes and Spies why would he need that?. It' s not an achievement type thing to go on your library wall. Many people's lives are at stake when it comes to TS clearance. I'm really surprised people haven't jumped on this
- Lynx
- RESIST
There are people quite concerned about the clearance thing. What was leaked does indeed make it sound like Trump circumvented the process.
"A RICO investigation would take a vary long time. Thing is they are going to have to back off some. The Mueller thing turned up nothing and at quite a cost in money manpower and time. "
This is what the Republicans want you to believe. We already have a huge amount of information from the indictments and convictions that Mueller is responsible for. Attorney General William Barr's summary of the investigation was pathetic. Mueller has also passed much info on to appropriate attorney's general in various states.
"A RICO investigation would take a vary long time. Thing is they are going to have to back off some. The Mueller thing turned up nothing and at quite a cost in money manpower and time. "
This is what the Republicans want you to believe. We already have a huge amount of information from the indictments and convictions that Mueller is responsible for. Attorney General William Barr's summary of the investigation was pathetic. Mueller has also passed much info on to appropriate attorney's general in various states.
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- For the Love of Pigs
"Attorney General William Barr's summary of the investigation was pathetic."
For sure. I'm still reeling. Just when we think we're making a bit of progress, we slide back. Like we're Sisyphus pushing that rock up the hill.
My sister pointed out that SDNY & EDVA, etc. are part of the justice dept. meaning controlled by Barr. Of course the state AG's are independent and I hope they run with whatever info they have.
GPIG. I don't get why the security for Kushner is the key. I'm not arguing, I just don't understand - maybe because you know more about this stuff. Trump got Kelly to do it. I think the access to Nukes & Spies info helps Kushner do business in the Mideast. What a corrupt bunch of bastards (is this word allowed?)
For sure. I'm still reeling. Just when we think we're making a bit of progress, we slide back. Like we're Sisyphus pushing that rock up the hill.
My sister pointed out that SDNY & EDVA, etc. are part of the justice dept. meaning controlled by Barr. Of course the state AG's are independent and I hope they run with whatever info they have.
GPIG. I don't get why the security for Kushner is the key. I'm not arguing, I just don't understand - maybe because you know more about this stuff. Trump got Kelly to do it. I think the access to Nukes & Spies info helps Kushner do business in the Mideast. What a corrupt bunch of bastards (is this word allowed?)