Eye ulcer snd vet visit

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sozansound2

Post   » Thu Jan 27, 2022 11:48 am


i was just asking about how much cc would you feed a guinea per session. i was already aware of what he said.

i just want a general idea so i wont over due it per session so i just went with 3 cc for the time being till i get a response.

sozansound2

Post   » Thu Jan 27, 2022 1:18 pm


and how far between each session also

sozansound2

Post   » Thu Jan 27, 2022 1:38 pm


also she has still been fluffed up and visibly see her breathing a bit deep probably due to pain. she still moves and walks if she has too. is it normal for them to still be this way with metacam 2 times a day? i feel it is but just incase

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Sef
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Post   » Thu Jan 27, 2022 2:29 pm


Handfeeding isn't an exact science. Oxbow suggests roughly 3 tablespoons of dry CC per kg of weight. You would need to calculate this based on your own pig's current weight. Again, that is dry weight of CC (before you mix it with water). You can then divide it into several feedings throughout the day--such as, every couple of hours. Getting as much as you can into her is important if she isn't eating a whole lot on her own. Weighing her at the same time every morning will help you gauge if she's getting enough to maintain her weight. You will likely have to adjust up or down, and experiment with thickness. I prefer to make it a little on the thicker side vs. too watery.

Fluffed up does indicate pain. I would contact your veterinarian if you feel as though her pain is not being managed effectively with the Metacam.

sozansound2

Post   » Thu Jan 27, 2022 2:46 pm


i have never used metrics like tablespoons and the like to measure how much i need for something. i will make sure i remember to weigh her in the morning without food. her weight is 829 grams with food. so she probably weights around 790 grams or so. i want to use that as a base for now to rough estimate how much to feed today.

790 grams= 0.79 kg. so if i am doing this correctly, 0.79 x 3 tablespoon = 2.37 tablespoons of critical care?

bpatters
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Post   » Thu Jan 27, 2022 3:01 pm


See my post above for how much to feed.

sozansound2

Post   » Thu Jan 27, 2022 3:35 pm


so going off the 100cc for every kg she weights. so 100 x 0.79 = 79 cc per day? is this correct if we assume she eats no veggies or hay?

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Lynx
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Post   » Thu Jan 27, 2022 10:58 pm


Ditto Sef on addressing the pain. It sounds like the amount of pain medication needs to be increased if you are seeing her puffed up with slightly labored breathing.

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Renonvsparky

Post   » Fri Jan 28, 2022 2:59 am


Agree on the pain. If her pain is being managed effectively, she just might be inclined to eat more on her own.

sozansound2

Post   » Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:04 am


i had seen her forage about 2 to 3 times yesterday and i think she ate some hay but i dont think it was allot. she still eats her veggies as well. she does tend to be interested in hay fresh out of the hay box allot.

she was 829 grams yesterday with food, today she is 846 grams without food. i gave her 12 cc of critical care yesterday in total. curious how that happened.

about the pain meds. a bit ago someone said the dosage she was on was already a bit high for her so i dont know if the vet would be willing to increase it, no?

Edit: i spoke with her surgeon and she said i can go from 0.15 twice a day to 0.25 twice a day. i will give that a shot

bpatters
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Post   » Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:35 am


Your calculation on the amoumt of food needed per day is right.

sozansound2

Post   » Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:04 am


thanks

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Renonvsparky

Post   » Fri Jan 28, 2022 2:11 pm


She looks to have gained just over half an ounce, which is not substantial, but far better than losing weight. From the sound of it, she's doing well and you're doing the right things. My experience with adult pigs is that they lose weight when sick far quicker than they gain it back once they get well. Sometimes they don't gain it all back. Scruffy was around 3 pounds when he got sick and barely got over 2 lbs and stayed there for the rest of his life (which was shortened by his illness).

sozansound2

Post   » Fri Jan 28, 2022 7:14 pm


thing is i am concerned is she has pooped the first day she came from the operation but i have not seen poop were she usually lays at ever since. her belly is distended but i thought maybe it was inflammation from the bladder.

i was using a white towel but once she started biting it, i layed a blue fleece on top so she would stop.

sozansound2

Post   » Fri Jan 28, 2022 7:43 pm


wow this is crazy. looks like she started getting a taste for the probiotic powder i sprinkle on her veggies and the second she taste it, she wants nothing to do with that piece unless i brought another. i am seeing signs she is rejecting her veggies. guess it is time to do hardcore force feed. wish it didnt have to come to this

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Lynx
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Post   » Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:02 pm


thing is i am concerned is she has pooped the first day she came from the operation but i have not seen poop were she usually lays at ever since. her belly is distended but i thought maybe it was inflammation from the bladder.

Do you see poops at all during the day? Is she on any motility drugs? I don't remember if we talked on this topic about how they can eat all their poops but when you say her stomach is distended, if poop is not at all moving through and being seen or ingested, you want to get things moving.

sozansound2

Post   » Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:07 pm


motility as in metoclopramide?

and no, i looked around her cage as i cleaned were i had place hay (it was a good amount of it to encourage scavenging) and i only saw a few old dried up poop.

i have not seen her eat them. she probably goes out of her hut 3 times a day. majority of it is spent in her hut with the warm water bottle.

the day she came back from her operation and the following day after that i have seen her pee and poop as well. after that i have not been able to find an angle to see her pee/poop but the poop is something not around as often as it should be.

Feeding update: this morning i gave her 6 cc of critical care and all her meds with 3 syringe of water to start her off. she did eat veggies this morning.

right now, i gave her 10 cc of critical care and 1 syringe of water once i started seeing her not want her veggies (ate like 2% of it). i did mix the probiotic with the critical care batch. still have some left for tonight with it.

later, i will give another 10 cc of critical care plus her meds with 3 syringe of water to end the night. tomorrow i will increase more critical care cc since i had to prepare and fix my snowplower all day for tomorrows historic blizzard here. my body is destroyed

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Lynx
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Post   » Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:49 pm


Your hand feeding and managing of pain is so important. I hope she can get past this difficult part and begin healing.

sozansound2

Post   » Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:52 pm


should i be giving her metoclopramide?

and i will try my best no matter how much war declarations she threatens me.

i have been keeping tabs on her incisions once every single day. i took pictures of them everyday for records. right now, it looks flaky which i assume is the healing process i think.

sozansound2

Post   » Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:43 am


I made the mistake of taking the booster shot and I started getting aches, fever and headache.

I gave her the 3 water syringe, the 2 meds and 3 syringe of critical care. That was all I could muster from the 10 I was gonna originally do. She didn't help since I think she felt my fingers allot more weaker than usual so she was hell.

Tomorrow is not gonna be fun.

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