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duskern

Post   » Wed May 02, 2018 5:14 am


So should I stop feeding my pigs beetroot? I couldn't find it on the nutrition chart though. Regarding the celery, what is this choking hazard you are refering to? We normally only give the girls brocoli once a week.

Are the Cavia Complete pellets we use really that bad? I had them recommended by someone a while back. The pigs really like them, but I have to figure out if we should change.

I would really like to give my girls a good healthy diet. I actually thought we did. It seems a bit overwhelming.

I usually give them a pea flake and a parsley pellet for a snack every night. Is this ok?

kailaeve1271

Post   » Wed May 02, 2018 8:01 am


Sorry, Lynx! I didn’t realize I had to use photos from the site I was just using what I could get to actually load. I’ll keep that in mind for the future. I was also told on THIS site that I shouldn’t give a lot of carrot so I was just going off of what I was informed. I’ll keep all of this in mind for the future! Also I did have permission from those other sites they were both on different forums? I asked there, but they may have taken what they found on the internet. Sorry everyone! Should have done a little more research on the photos
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kailaeve1271

Post   » Wed May 02, 2018 8:11 am


Beetroot should be cut down to about twice a week at most is what I’m told. Celery has long strings that are known to get caught on your pigs teeth and have a choking hazard so if you do feed them cut them into thin slices. I’ve always been pea flakes are a piggy favorite and my pugs love parsley, I’m pretty sure both go in moderation. I found something on the pellets, but please allow me a moment to clear with Lynx that it is okay to posts since I seem to be breaking rules :( Completely by accident though guys. I’m sorry

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Post   » Wed May 02, 2018 8:38 am


Yes, you are right that you should not give a lot of carrot. My complaint was when you said it was high in sugar. This is a myth that has bee kicking around for a while. I don't know much about beetroot.

I don't mind if you reference Guinea Pig Cages. They are great. But I wanted to know where you got Tracis' photo from because it appears it was stolen from this site. If you instead referenced her photo here, you would not be supporting someone who takes photos without getting Tracis' permission.

duskern

Post   » Wed May 02, 2018 8:42 am


Thx for your advice. My only concern is my sweet girls :)

Regarding the beetroot. I have always been told that hard vegetables are nice for helping with keeping the teeth short. This is why we always give them hard vegs as a night snack. We don't vary it much, but give them either carrots, beetroot or brocoli. Is this not a good idea?

We have not had any problems with the celery, and I was not aware of the hazard. Should we just stop feeding them celery? They really like it, that's for sure. There's never anything left to be found :)

I'd really like to give my girls the best diet possible, so if the pellets are not good for them, I will have to find something else. They do sound good when you read the ingredients I think, and as far as I can tell, they are made specifically for guinea pigs.

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Post   » Wed May 02, 2018 8:50 am


You might consider chopping the celery to take care of the stringiness. Hay is much more effective for the teeth. Hard vegetables really don't help much. Dietarily, I think you can give them a little though.

If you use a dark colored fleece as bedding, you will have some indication of calcium intake and output.

kailaeve1271

Post   » Wed May 02, 2018 9:04 am


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This is the what I was referring to earlier. I believe it’s more in the middle. It says that it’s higher in ash than a piggy needs and has a bunch of additives but the company is so vague with ingredients that they can tell much more. Celery can still be fed but it is advised to be cut into slices that are about half a cm (I’m tryong to use cm rather than inches so if that’s wrong let me know again). Beetroot is okay but more as a treat. As Lynx said hay is so much better.

kailaeve1271

Post   » Wed May 02, 2018 9:08 am


Just out of curiousity if carrot is not high is sugar why is it not supposed to be given frequently?

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Post   » Wed May 02, 2018 10:22 am


It is a starchy veg. In the wild, you would not find guinea pigs foraging for root vegetables but instead eating grass, greens, fallen fruit (?), dried grass. I think of it being less nutritionally dense by weight. Carrots are high in vitamin A, which is a fat soluble vitamin. Too much vitamin A can actually cause problems.

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Post   » Wed May 02, 2018 10:30 am


Beets would not be part of a wild guinea pig's diet -- they're herbivores. And hard veggies do nothing for their teeth -- it's the hay/grass that keeps them ground down. Also, it's higher in calcium than lettuces.

As for the celery, in all the years I've been on this forum and GPC, I've never heard of a pig getting choked on celery. I have heard that one clinic has seen guinea pigs with an obstruction caused by the strings. Pig teeth are like razor knives, and I tend to think that worry is overblown. However, you can be perfectly safe by just cutting it crosswise into small slices and completely solve that problem.

kailaeve1271

Post   » Wed May 02, 2018 11:25 am


I’ve actually had a guinea pig have celery strings wrappped around her teeth. It cause an infection and was partially down her throat so she kept coughing. That’s how I noticed. It is a real thing which is why I stress cutting them

duskern

Post   » Fri May 04, 2018 6:58 am


kailaeve1271 cm is fine, and what we use here in Denmark :) I just read the link you provided regarding Cavia Complete. I'm not entirely sure what the discussion is about, but is the conclusion that it's not a good product for guinea pigs?

I'm totally confused regarding beet root and carrots. We have been feeding them that stuff for years, and I've always been told it was good for them. What do you guys recommend then. Not give them any of this at all, meaning no beet root and no carrots?

Regarding the celery. We will cut them into smaller slices :)

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Post   » Fri May 04, 2018 7:38 am


Read over www.guinealynx.info/diet.html You will note there are a lot of opinions on diet. Some are based on what foods are available and what is often eaten in a particular country. If your guinea pig has a particular problem like stones, diet factors in.

I often think moderation works wonders. I think you could continue to feed both but perhaps with moderation. My personal bias is to aim for a diet that would seem more natural (greens and grass/hay). Pellets aren't natural but provide nutrients that science tells us are needed and perhaps could be missing in a more limited diet.

You will need to work out something that seems right to you, paying attention to the health of your guinea pig.

kailaeve1271

Post   » Fri May 04, 2018 8:23 am


From what I read there are plenty of brands that are better but in some areas that is all you can get. I’m not from Denmark so I don’t know what’s available over there. That is something you have to decide and I completely agree with Lynx! Moderation is good. I personally like feeding safe lettuce and occasional pieces of bok Choy for greens but like I said before I’m nowhere near Denmark and sometimes you have to base your piggies diet on what you have access to.

I tried looking into what you guys have over in Denmark but I can’t find much so I can’t help out much more. GuineaLynx has an excellent veggie chart that can help you decide which vegetables in your area are good for your pigs

duskern

Post   » Fri May 04, 2018 9:27 am


I think I should be able to get a hold of most brands of pellets, as well as most vegetables. Is there a list of preferred pellets somewhere?

I think my girl Abigail might have a bladder stone, so I'd like to take that into account, and start to change the diet accordingly. There's no harm in doing that for the others, even though they probably don't have stones, right?

You guys/girls are so much help! Thank you all!

kailaeve1271

Post   » Fri May 04, 2018 9:56 am


http://www.guinealynx.info/pellets.html
I’d look over this page. It has analysis of many pellets both good and bad.

On it, it says “You will find by applying the guidelines described above that KMS Hayloft and Oxbow Hay Companies' pellets are currently the best pellets available.” I would also like to add in Sherwood pellets are becoming increasingly popular and are showing great positive results.

Sherwood only available online (including on Amazon) but I don’t know if you can get it shipped out there or if it’s only in America.
KMS Hayloft is available online on her websites.
Oxbow is available online AND in most stores.

I personally have tried both Oxbow and Sherwood. They are both really good in my opinion!

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Post   » Fri May 04, 2018 10:30 am


I personally would NOT recommend using Sherwood, especially for a stone pig. They're alfalfa based, and higher in calcium than either Oxbow or KMS Hayloft.

There's lots of anecdotal buzz about Sherwood, but no scientific studies, and I'm not particularly impressed with what I see about the founder of them. He makes lots of assertions but without much data to back them up.

kailaeve1271

Post   » Fri May 04, 2018 10:42 am


I’ve had pigs with lots of sludge and when they’ve been x rayed nothing was seen. We have very little calcium deposits now and they all feel very fine. I think it really is up to what the owner decides. Yeah the alfalfa is questionable, but there have been many people including myself who have seen positive things. I haven’t heard of any negative results yet

Like I said it’s up to the owner if they want to test/risk it with their pig.

duskern

Post   » Fri May 04, 2018 11:44 am


Does anyone care to comment on this:

I think my girl Abigail might have a bladder stone, so I'd like to take that into account, and start to change the diet accordingly. There's no harm in doing that for the others, even though they probably don't have stones, right?

I would really like to do what's best for Abigail, and hopefully what's best for her is also fine for the other two. What would you recommend? No pellets? Any specific vegetables to give or avoid?

Changes in diet is something that should come slowly if I remember correctly.

kailaeve1271

Post   » Fri May 04, 2018 12:28 pm


I’m going to have no comment as far as pellets are concerned. Everyone knows where I stand and if you’d like to see what Sherwood pellets do for pigs there is a forum on it. No need for arguing over personal opinions :) I respect everyone and if you prefer other brands over what I like than I fully support those on that

Now if you don’t want to do that brand I’ve let my pigs have oxbow in very small amounts. It’s not necessarily known to cause stones and is lower in calcium than most pellets! I loved them when I was one them but I switched because it didn’t work with my piggies personal health.

I also recommend a low calcium diet when it comes to veggies. My pigs are on one: leaf lettuce, cucumber, bell pepper and cherry tomato. There are many other variations of this too that you could probably find on this forum. I based mine off of the one on the guinealynx diet page that was listed earlier.

Some people have decided to switch to no pellets. You’d have to make up the nutrients they lose from this. I personally have never done it so I hope someone who has more experience with that will comment for you.

Both oxbow and Sherwood have urinary tablets that may help with calcium as well. I don’t know if any other brands but I’m sure there is more.

You are correct, most switches should be done slowly :)

If one of your pigs is having problems it may be genetics but it may also be the diet. I would think about switching all your pigs especially if you see them showing signs of problems

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