"Healthy" Piggie Peeing Blood.

victoria15

Post   » Wed Jun 30, 2021 6:05 am


I've booked for a surgery next week. I will ask for the copy of the result when the clinic opens.

I have been looking at her older pictures and although I am not certain, I think my pig also have bulgier eyes. She always had big eyes, but I think I see the white of her eyes a bit more now. From my short research, it seems like abscess behind eyes would usually impact one eye. Would something like elongated roots push both eyes out? I have not noticed watery eyes nor change of appetite. I think I will send pictures to the clinic and/or talk to the vet whether he should have a better look at her eyes before the surgery. I did not have a time to read your page on teeth fully so I will do so tomorrow (technically today but whatever). I might be overthinking but I want to make the best move for my pig. Sorry, I really need to get a sleep now.

victoria15

Post   » Wed Jun 30, 2021 10:50 am


Good morning, I approached my pigs this morning and her eyes looks completely normal! I think her eyes get bigger when she gets annoyed with me taking pictures or picking her up. Thanks.

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Post   » Wed Jun 30, 2021 12:28 pm


Glad to hear her eyes appear normal.

victoria15

Post   » Wed Jun 30, 2021 10:33 pm


Cytology result only says, "FNA - Amorphous waxy debris." There is no image attached.

In the morning, her eyes looked absolutely fine, but when I came home from work and observed, I felt her eyes are a bit bulged again. I asked a family member of mine to see if she notices the bulging. She feels her left is a bit bulged. I contacted the clinic if I could see the doctor before the surgery and the receptionist said that the clinic would ask for $110 (incl. tax) again because it is a new case. I just wrote an email to argue politely that it is a related case which impacts the surgery, in my opinion. I asked them if they could kindly check with my vet. How receptionist thinks could be different from how my vet thinks. Tomorrow's Canada Day so I am not expecting a response. Some people may disagree with me and say that it is fair for the clinic to charge again. I would like to decide on the clinic that offers holistic treatment and service.

From my perspective, if I am paying again, it would be wiser to see a different vet (even within the same clinic) to get a second opinion and have the health check done twice. Although other clinic said the surgery will be in fall, I could ask for a second opinion. Also, I could go back to my former vet who did not know that sows could bleed when they are on heat. I was upset that she did not know, but unlike this vet, she spends time on the health check. She also did an abscess draining surgery on my pig when she was a baby.

I will wait for the response from the clinic.

victoria15

Post   » Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:59 am


All images in the top row were taken this morning (I was filming).
The bottom images were taken in the afternoon or at night. The afternoon/night pictures are taken on the different days (about a week or two apart but both recent. The bottom right one is taken yesterday).
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The bulging is quite obvious in the afternoon and I would say that the left seems bulged more than the right. The vet did not check her teeth so there might be something going on there. Maybe she pushes (ie. eats during the day) her teeth and pushes her eye outward??

Image that was taken tonight from above. (10:00PM-ish)
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I will take pictures of her throughout the day and monitor her eyes.

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Post   » Thu Jul 01, 2021 10:26 pm


Taking pictures for documentation and comparison purposes can be so helpful. I do not see significant changes in the eyes.

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Post   » Fri Jul 02, 2021 8:17 am


You wrote the lump was:
Cytology result only says, "FNA - Amorphous waxy debris."
This reminds me of glands (?) in the skin that produce lots of cebaceous material. The skin can rupture leaving an unusual looking area that needs to be removed surgically. I don't know if this is at all related to what is going on with your guinea pig. A FNA will generally sample only a small section.

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victoria15

Post   » Tue Jul 06, 2021 2:57 am


Hi Lynx,

I am not sure if that piggie's back has been shaved but it probably is something similar to that.

I end up not seeing the vet just for the eyes. I think it was the lighting. I can observe the white of her eyes easier at night for some reason. I received a call from the clinic and was told that the vet will check her teeth while she is under anaesthesia.

I just noticed that the ​estimate includes Meloxadin Oral Susp. 1.5mg/ml 10 mL and Baytril/Enrofloxacin Oral 20mg/mL.

1. I googled "Meloxadin 1.5MG 10ml " and I think I found the box of Meloxadin Oral Susp. According to the description on the box, each mL contains 1.5 mg meloxicam. Your site recommends 0.2 mg/kg, PO, q24h. My pig weighs 1 kg. Giving her 1 ml of 1.5mg/mL meloxicam is already 7.5 times more than it needs to be. He plans to give 10 mLs ... so that would be 75 times more than she needs, no? I do not think he plans to give her meloxicam for 75 days. The dosage for dogs are also 0.2 mg/kg as you wrote, too. I will check with the clinic. My guess is that the clinic simply wants me to buy the whole product (the product box says it contains "10ml").
2. Regarding Baytril, your site recommends 2.5-10.0 mg/kg q12h. Maybe the vet made an estimate for 24 hours but I am not sure (it's on the high end, but still within). I just want to make sure she will not be overdosed so I will ask. I am thinking about requesting for Bactrim instead of Baytril; however, I kind of do not get the purpose of antibiotics for this surgery. She does not have an abscess, UTI, or URI. In order to chose the safer antibiotics, I will contact my former clinic and ask which one she had in the past. I cannot remember which med it was but she was enjoying the flavor of the "treat (med)."

The surgery is in two days. I will do what I can do. I appreciate this platform so much.

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Post   » Tue Jul 06, 2021 8:31 am


You wrote earlier: " Also, I could go back to my former vet who did not know that sows could bleed when they are on heat. I was upset that she did not know, but unlike this vet, she spends time on the health check. "

I would not hold this against your vet. It is generally believed that they do not bleed during their cycle. It has been an observation of a very few of us that an occasional guinea pig can spot for a couple days and then stop, that may correlate to possible bleeding during their cycle. They may also not bleed at all for months. So this is not usual.

If you are seeing a much lower meloxicam dose than the vet is prescribing for a dog on the bottle, it does seem to confirm that the lower dose indicated here is more in line with what you should be giving your guinea pig.

I agree with your assessment of the antibiotic. If there is an abscess, Baytril could help more than Bactrim. Baytril also seems to disrupt the gut bacteria more than Bactrim. You do want a compelling reason to use antibiotics.

p.s. I think if this was my guinea pig and I felt I could safely do it (and if my guinea pig would tolerate it), I would try clipping away some of the hair so I could monitor the lump for changes. The lump my guinea pig had broke the skin and was easy to examine so I haven't been tempted to trim hair.

victoria15

Post   » Wed Jul 07, 2021 2:29 am


I am dropping off my guinea pig at the clinic tomorrow morning for a cyst removal (in about 8 hrs). Hopefully, everything will go smooth.

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Post   » Wed Jul 07, 2021 11:13 am


I hope all goes well! This is not likely to be major surgery but you might want to read over:
https://www.guinealynx.info/postop.html

Let us know precisely what he finds the lump consists of.

victoria15

Post   » Fri Jul 09, 2021 4:28 am


Than you for your prayers. My guinea pig's surgery was successful and she is on the process of recovery right now.

I got a call from my vet around 1:00 PM and he explained to me how the surgery went. The lump consisted of a material that was thick as a clay. He removed it and washed it with antiseptic solution. At the bottom part of the cyst, there was a lot of scar tissue. This happens when the cyst is left for a long period of time. It was disturbing the surrounding tissue so there was an inflammation (I missed a bit of info here because I was exhausted from the training at my work... sorry). He successfully removed the cyst and the envelope. He said it was a good decision to go with removal but there is still a small chance that it may come back, but it is unlikely. Her stitches will be removed in 2 weeks. Although she should not be able to reach that area, he told me to come back if stitches are disturbed or removed. I asked if I should separate my pigs for 2 weeks; he suggest to keep them together because guinea pigs get stressed when separated. It would help her recovery if they are put together. Overall, I am happy that he was the surgeon for my pig... especially considering that many clinics rejected to take guinea pigs in.

As of now, she usually comes to me when I bring her the treats. My pig has lost about 50-60 g right after the surgery and she continues to lose a bit (She weighed 950g in the morning and was 943g when I came home from work). She has become picky with foods and this indicates me that she feels sick/pain. She continues to eat majority of food, but she is not that interested in apples anymore. Since she eats hay and veggies actively, I do not think she needs force-feeding at the moment. Since she has lost some weight, I am encouraging her to eat more by feeding piggies with various veggies every 2 to few hours (when I am at home).

I am not sure if anybody's interested, overall, the vet fee for this case was around $850+ CAD.

Thank you.

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