Senior Guinea Pig Food by Oxbow

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Sef
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Post   » Wed Jun 15, 2022 6:54 pm


Has anyone seen this?
https://www.oxbowanimalhealth.com/our-p ... a-pig-food

I am not seeing it anywhere except on their website.

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Lynx
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Post   » Wed Jun 15, 2022 10:03 pm


I see the Ingredients and Guaranteed Analysis are:
Timothy Grass Meal, Oat Grass, Orchard Grass, Suncured Alfalfa Meal, Oat Hulls, Soybean Meal, Suncured Ground Miscanthus, Oat Groats, Flaxseed Meal, Sodium Bentonite, Barley, Dried Plain Beet Pulp, Salt, DL-Methionine, Ginger Root, Hydrolyzed Yeast, Inulin, L-Leucine, L-Lysine, Turmeric Powder, L-Ascorbyl-2-Monophosphate (Vitamin C), Chamomile, Choline Chloride, Vitamin E Supplement, Zinc Sulfate, Mixed Tocopherols, Yeast Culture , Yucca Schidigera Extract, Zinc Proteinate, Niacin, Copper Sulfate, d-Calcium Pantothenate, Vitamin A Supplement, Manganous Oxide, Riboflavin Supplement, Biotin, Thiamine Mononitrate, Magnesium Sulfate, Copper Proteinate, Sodium Selenite, Manganese Proteinate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Folic Acid, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Cobalt Carbonate, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Calcium Iodate, Rosemary Extract

Guaranteed Analysis:
Crude Protein (min) 3.00%
Crude Fat (min) 2.50%
Crude Fiber (min) 25.00%
Crude Fiber (max) 29.00%
Moisture (max) .10.00%
Calcium (min) 0.35%
Calcium (max) 0.75%
Phosphorus (min) 0.25%
Vitamin A (min) 10,000 IU/kg
Vitamin D3 (min) 900 IU/kg
Vitamin E (min) 200 IU/kg
Ascorbic Acid (Vitamin C) (min) 300 mg/kg

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Sef
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Post   » Thu Jun 16, 2022 12:33 am


Yes, I saw that it has alfalfa meal as an ingredient. I was thinking it might be worth looking into for guinea pigs that are ill and in need of something to help boost appetite or need to gain weight (which I'm currently dealing with). The calcium content is the same as the Garden Select and Essentials formulas (which isn't ideal but still lower than most other brands now that KMS is no longer in business) and also does not contain calcium carbonate.

I will let you know what I find out about its availability if I hear back from Oxbow on it.

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Lynx
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Post   » Thu Jun 16, 2022 7:07 am


I think alfalfa may contribute extra protein, too.

I was not familiar with calcium iodate. Looks like it is primarily an iodine source, not a calcium source, so if the ingredient list is basically getting the calcium naturally occuring calcium instead of added calcium, IMO, that is a good thing. At least the alfalfa is not listed as a first ingredient.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/ph ... ium-iodate
Common dietary sources of iodine include iodized salt, ethylenediamine dihydroiodide (EDDI), calcium iodate, as well as naturally high iodine sources such as kelp and certain seaweeds.
And it appears the d-Calcium Pantothenate is a source of vitamin B5.

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Sef
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Post   » Sun Jul 10, 2022 8:47 pm


Chewy.com finally has this product in stock, and I ordered a bag this evening:
https://www.chewy.com/oxbow-animal-heal ... /dp/521926

Interestingly, the calcium listed on the bag differs from what is listed on Oxbow's website:
Calcium (min) 0.30%
Calcium (max) 0.60%

If the analysis is accurate, it's actually a little lower in calcium (on average) than either the Adult Essentials or GS pellets.

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Lynx
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Post   » Sun Jul 10, 2022 10:57 pm


Sounds promising! I hope it works out for you.

Bookfan
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Post   » Mon Jul 11, 2022 1:58 pm


Let us know how it goes.

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ItsaZoo
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Post   » Mon Jul 11, 2022 11:19 pm


It looks like there’s a little more vitamin C in the senior compared to the adult Garden Select. Plus they have added antioxidants.

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Sef
I dissent.

Post   » Tue Jul 12, 2022 6:35 am


Yes, I noticed that too. Still waiting to hear back from Oxbow on the calcium content.

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ItsaZoo
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Post   » Sat Jul 16, 2022 12:46 am


I was going to try it even though Gidget isn’t a senior, but I decided on the organic instead. She’s picky and doesn’t eat all her pellets, and only nibbles at the vitamin C, so I’m always looking for something she might like.

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Sef
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Post   » Sun Jul 17, 2022 9:49 am


I haven't used the Senior Formula yet, but I think it could be a good product for older pigs who might be losing weight as part of the natural aging process and need a little boost.

We use Garden Select, although I ordered the Organics stuff by accident awhile back. It looks good but does contain calcium carbonate, which is an ingredient that (rightly or wrongly) I try to avoid.

I still wish Oxbow would come out with a lower calcium option for stone-prone pigs, and also a soft diet for those who have chronic dental issues and have a hard time chewing pellets. It would also be nice if they offered smaller quantity 'sample' packets, like KMS used to do.

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ItsaZoo
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Post   » Tue Jul 19, 2022 1:24 am


I agree regarding the smaller quantity. A few pounds of food goes a long way and it would be nice to be able to switch off for a picky pig.

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Sef
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Post   » Tue Jul 26, 2022 9:13 pm


I started one of our older males on this today. His weight has been up and down for no apparent reason over the past couple of months, and that's why I ordered this in the first place. In the time that it took for my order to get here, though, his weight had leveled off and I didn't really want to change it up if it looked like he was going to maintain right at 1kg. He has started to drop again this week, though, so I'm gradually adding the Senior Essentials pellets to his feedings of Garden Select to see if it will help.

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ItsaZoo
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Post   » Tue Jul 26, 2022 10:37 pm


I ordered the Organic before I saw your post about calcium carbonate. The max calcium less than 1% but I don’t think I’ll order them again. The Garden Select doesn’t have calcium carbonate, but I thought fussy little Gidget might like a change. It seems she doesn’t really care for pellets no matter what. She maybe eats a tablespoon of pellets a day and if her pellet cup is empty it’s because half the pellets are on the floor.

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Tracy

Post   » Wed Sep 07, 2022 4:01 pm


Glad to see this topic already in discussion. I just saw this product in a Petsmart over the weekend but didn't have time (or eyeglasses) to read thru the ingredients and learn how it's better for seniors. I also don't have senior piggies right now, although the one I just lost in June was low weight with calcium issues, so feeding her and attempting weight gain was challenging. I try to steer clear of alfalfa except for young piggies, and I agree it would be GREAT if Oxbow (or anyone) developed pellets that are better for stones/sludge pigs. So this formula mostly has extra vitamins, is that the difference?

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Sef
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Post   » Wed Sep 07, 2022 7:50 pm


My older guy seems to like it well enough, but I can't say that it has done a whole lot toward boosting his weight. I mix it with GS, though, rather than feed it "straight."

Oxbow states on their website, "Essentials Senior Guinea Pig is specially formulated to support your aging guinea pig’s needs. We start with 6 high-quality fiber sources to support the aging digestive system and add natural antioxidants to help maintain physical and mental sharpness and activity. Essentials Senior Guinea Pig includes natural plant-based herbal ingredients like ginger root, turmeric, and chamomile and provides 100% of your pet’s daily recommended vitamins and minerals with no artificial preservatives, colors, or flavors."

The senior formula is higher in fiber and slightly higher in protein and Vitamin C. Otherwise, it is pretty comparable nutritionally to Garden Select:

Senior Essentials
Crude Protein (min) 13.00%
Crude Fat (min) 2.50%
Crude Fiber (min) 25.00%
Crude Fiber (max) 29.00%
Moisture (max) .10.00%
Calcium (min) 0.35%
Calcium (max) 0.75%
Phosphorus (min) 0.25%
Vitamin A (min) 10,000 IU/kg
Vitamin D3 (min) 900 IU/kg
Vitamin E (min) 200 IU/kg
Ascorbic Acid (Vitamin C) (min) 300 mg/kg

Garden Select
Crude Protein (min) 12.00%
Crude Fat (min) 2.50%
Crude Fiber (min) 22.00%
Crude Fiber (max) 26.00%
Moisture (max) 10.00%
Calcium (min) 0.35%
Calcium (max) 0.75%
Phosphorus (min) 0.25%
Vitamin A (min) 10,000 IU/kg
Vitamin D3 (min) 900 IU/kg
Vitamin E (min) 190 IU/kg
Ascorbic Acid (Vitamin C) (min) 250 mg/kg

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daisymay
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Post   » Fri Sep 16, 2022 2:30 am


Won't be available down under anytime soon it seems. I emailed them and was told not in the next decade. So my babies will be seniors when it becomes available here. Poor Jewel and Jay miss out it seems.

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Lynx
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Post   » Fri Sep 16, 2022 7:42 am


As you know, shipping to other countrie can be so expensive. Weighing that with getting out a fresh product that is affordable can be near impossible. Sorry to hear it won't be available any time soon!

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Shanna
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Post   » Sat Oct 01, 2022 10:11 pm


Hi guys. I know, by now, I’m probably virtually I I not remembered on here, but I read a lot to educate myself and rarely speak. LOL. Down to my last little rescue baby of 20 years and 16 piggies. I am writing with a heavy heart because, wouldn’t you know, he has a stone in one of his ureters. Through many years of loving many little pigbabies I can say with little doubt that not having the KMS Hayloft pellets led to it. As long as he had those he didn’t even have sludge. We always bought them, but when things went south, we had to switch back to Oxbow (By the way…thank you for the heads up, Sef. I did see the calcium carbonate in the organic which I’d ordered by mistake and immediately tossed them out.) Now, I’m struggling like everyone else to find a suitable pellet or another alternate regimen for my little Charlie. I was wondering about the Oxbow senior formula, so I’m very grateful for this posting. I’ve looked at Small Pet Select, you name it. I’m lost and very sad because I’m well aware of his condition and what it entails. Any and all suggestions for pellets and whatever else would be appreciated. Prayers, positive and healing thoughts are, too. If someone did buy the formula I’m afraid it may be too late for our baby.

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Lynx
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Post   » Sat Oct 01, 2022 11:14 pm


Hi Shanna!

So sorry to hear you have a guinea pig with stones. KMS pellets did seem to help a lot of people. Stones are such a complex issue. I hope you can find something that helps little Charlie.

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